selek Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 http://godandculture.wordpress.com/2007/07...he-white-house/What we want is a politician who will understand the basic Judeo-Christian world view, and on the basis of that the moral laws of this nation are framed, and then run this country with the excellence of that which is recognized in a pluralistic society: the freedom to believe or to disbelieve, and the moral framework with which this was conducted: the sanctity of every individual life. Link to comment
Hoops22 Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 http://godandculture.wordpress.com/2007/07...he-white-house/Friend Selek, does this surprise you? Link to comment
e=mc2 Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 I can't help but wonder than why we as a nation keep electing the moron bozos we keep electing! We deseerve what we get because we don't put in better. Link to comment
e=mc2 Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 No way, that young perp? Too inexperienced. Romney anyday....... Link to comment
selek Posted July 27, 2007 Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 Friend Selek, does this surprise you?Not terribly. My reason for posting it was not because it was exceptional or suprising, but because Zacharias is know to several of our posters, and has taken some heat because of his across-the-aisle outreach. Link to comment
rhinomelon Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Just out of curiosity, what kind of heat has he taken? I haven't heard much recently, although I remember their being a flap around the time of his talk at the Tabernacle from LDS, seeing as he was the editor of the most recent edition of "Kingdom of the Cults". Haven't heard much since then. Take care, everyone Link to comment
Hoops22 Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Not terribly. My reason for posting it was not because it was exceptional or suprising, but because Zacharias is know to several of our posters, and has taken some heat because of his across-the-aisle outreach.I would agree with Rhino. I don't recall him taking much heat here, but my memory could be fuddled with thoughts of works.While surely many will disagree, I find Zach to be a persuasive thinker and apologist.While some will not support MR because of LDS - and I don't know any personally - a sizeable number will support him simply because they perceive him as smart, moral, and has a good grasp of the issues. While all of that may be true, many are undecided if this is the case. Link to comment
Homestar Runner Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 http://godandculture.wordpress.com/2007/07...he-white-house/Gotta love some of those comments at the end of the article! Link to comment
selek Posted July 27, 2007 Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 I would agree with Rhino. I don't recall him taking much heat here, but my memory could be fuddled with thoughts of works.While surely many will disagree, I find Zach to be a persuasive thinker and apologist.While some will not support MR because of LDS - and I don't know any personally - a sizeable number will support him simply because they perceive him as smart, moral, and has a good grasp of the issues. While all of that may be true, many are undecided if this is the case.He certainly didn't take any heat here (on MAD&, but there was evidently some blowback in other circles.Here are some of the threads and posts that touched on the matter.http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index.php...=ravi+zachariashttp://www.mormonapologetics.org/index.php...=ravi+zachariashttp://www.christianpost.com/article/20041..._Tabernacle.htm Link to comment
Bsix Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 I do not believe that Mitt Romney will be nominated by the Republican party to be its presidential candidate. Romney had one hope regarding his 'Mormon' issue. That was the chance that when his Mormon issue was discussed early, that he'd get a Kennedy-esque pass on his religion and be done with it. If he cannot move past being the 'Mormon' candidate his religion will create too much of a liability to be nominated.Saidly, that has not happened. In virtually every interview and press conference he is having to deal with the 'Mormon' issue. In fact, the Salt Lake Tribune has been speculating that Mitt is going to give a major address in the next couple of days on his religious beliefs.Romney has an awful lot going for him as a candidate -- looks, charisma, intelligence, wit, successful business experience, political experience, and deep management experience. Added to that is that Romney seems to be genuinely of high character. He also seems to be something of a moderate who has taken positions that conservatives do not like. (Independent voter may love him.)Romney's biggest challenge seems not to be his political qualifications. Its his religion.Regards,Six Link to comment
rhinomelon Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Romney's biggest challenge seems not to be his political qualifications. Its his religion.Bsix, in your eyes, does the above make you believe that anti-Mormonism is very much a part of the mainstream American culture (regardless of religion)? Link to comment
Bsix Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Bsix, in your eyes, does the above make you believe that anti-Mormonism is very much a part of the mainstream American culture (regardless of religion)?Six: That is a fair question. If you are asking me if I think the general population reflects the same sort of bias' and negatives as the Evangelical community...I do not.From what I can tell right now, most of the opposition that Romney is experiencing on the subject of his religion is coming from Evangelicals. And, most of the objections to Romney's religion seem to be straight out of the Evangelical countercult play book -- He's not a Christain, he is a cultist, he will be beholden to the leaders of the LDS Church, God having sex with Mary, polytheism, etc. etc.I do believe that there is a wide spread bias and and discomfort on the part of the general public of electing anyone who is not from a mainstream traditional Christian religion -- especially religions that are accused of being cults. It is my impression that the impact of Romney's Mormonism is like an onion. Peel away the milder outer rings and the deeper you go, the more bitter you discover the core is. The general population has hesitation aobut Mormons, but the closer you get to the religious heart...The general public is not all that religious. It is my impression that they think Mormonism is wierd and a little strange. There hesitency is based more on emotion and vauge associations around perceptions about us being insular, polygamy, Utah, and that we don't drink alcohol. Liberal leaning Americans would be more prone to oppose an LDS candidate because general feelings that Mormons are conservative on a number of social and economic issues in addition to general impressions.Professing traditional Christains, I think, will take much more of an "anti" stand. These are folks who have more active opinions and bias' against Mormons. The things these folks believe and say are the things we are hearing from the Evangelical community right now. Now, this does not represent the entire Evangelical community, but clearly many, many more of the opinions held by Evangelicals seem to have been shaped by how their community as a whole approaches religion in general and Mormonism in particular.Regards,Six Link to comment
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