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Scott Lloyd

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  1. Whether or not you accept my rhetorical characterization, it is still an “apocalyptic prediction about the environment,” however you slice it. And you indict me for driving this into the political realm when it was you who brought up Trump.
  2. Sounds tempting, but I wouldn’t want to exploit a friendship in that manner.
  3. Um, check the thread title and see if Sandy Cortez’s overwrought handwringing doesn’t fit the definition.
  4. Wish I had a relative who sent me steaks and hamburger issuing forth from his hobby. I think I’d like that better than zucchini.
  5. It’s not unfair. She is a public servant and is accountable for the tenor and content of her public statements. They are fair game for public response and commentary, just as mass media are accountable for what they publish or broadcast. She needs to put on her big-girl pants and recognize that. Her subsequent remarks blaming others for their reaction and casting aspersions on their intelligence is a white wash. If you look at her original statement, which garbled what the UN body said, there is nothing in it to convey to a reasonable listener or reader that she was engaging in “dry humor” or “sarcasm.” It seemed in dead earnest, and nothing in it indicated otherwise. How is someone with normal intellect supposed to know she’s joking about that when she brings forth the “green new deal” and expects to be taken seriously on that? But this has strayed into the political realm, so I won’t continue it. Just know in advance that whatever rejoinder you make I will probably disagree with but not respond to.
  6. I agree with you. While I think a sense of conservation and protective stewardship over the earth is certainly appropriate, I’m quite put off by the baseless apocalyptic predictions and would-be despotism that attends much of today’s climate-change activism. I find it to be politically weaponized and largely an instance of group-think. I believe the recent addition to the Church handbook relative to being prudent about what sources of information we embrace and share certainly applies as much to this topic as it does to any that could be named. By the way, I have a countdown clock running on AOCs declaration that the world will end in 12 years, presumably unless her wacky “green new deal” is enacted. Currently, we have 10 years, 2 weeks and 3 days left.
  7. I think you are ignoring the post-mortal context of that quotation.
  8. I love it when a fact checker gets fact checked.
  9. I think it fairly clear they were spirit beings. Is there some controversy about this?
  10. Good for you for trying to give credit where credit is due. But I’m having a hard time right now looking past her current public and boastful virtue signaling about refusing to pay her tithing to the Church and instead giving it to other causes, this because she was triggered by last year’s leak from an attention-seeking “whistleblower” about the Church allegedly keeping a rainy-day reserve. And her, in effect, daring local leaders to take back her temple recommend because of her behavior in this. “Generally unpleasant in its ... relentless negativity” is right.
  11. Sorry I missed the subtlety. Sometimes interacting on this board puts me on a hair trigger.
  12. I see it now. Transposing of “your” and “you’re”. And an apostrophe on “posts’”?
  13. You’re free to ignore any and all of my posts. Ergo, the answer to your question is you needn’t “endure” any of them.
  14. Or he did. Who accused whom on a public message board of engaging in a “shakedown”? But I guess the important thing is the two of you have resolved your differences.
  15. It makes sense that might have been their motivation. I still think it irresponsible for an institution to loan money for that purpose.
  16. That’s a good practice. Now that we can pay it on line via the Church’s website, I pay it immediately on the day I receive the paycheck (or, technically the account deposit). But it strikes me as irresponsible for a lending institution to loan money to someone for the purpose of making a charitable donation — to the Church or anyone else. From the standpoint of the institution, the customer’s priority ought to be to meet personal obligations first before giving money away, no matter how worthy the cause. Lending money to someone who lacks money management skills is like giving money to someone who intends to use it to feed his cocaine habit.
  17. That strikes me as unwise as well. They should have seen their bishop to get money management counseling (or some other form of assistance if needed) and possibly some forgiveness of tithing arrearages so they could start fresh and try to pay a full tithe from then into the future. But I do wonder why a customer would wander into a credit union and declare up front to a loan officer that he or she wanted to borrow money to pay tithing. That seems really weird to me. And to AtlanticMike, no, it’s not a Utah thing.
  18. No, it’s not a Utah thing. It’s frowned upon here, as it is elsewhere.
  19. For the second time (or the fourth or fifth, if you count Kenngo’s reminders to you), “would of” and “could of” are not proper English. It’s “would HAVE” and “could HAVE,” or, if you must use a contraction, “would’ve” or “could’ve.”
  20. This is the first I’ve heard of ANY ward that refuses to sing it in sacrament meeting. I don’t get why a ward would so refuse. Added: I’ve observed it being sung in general conference many times. If it’s good enough (or appropriate) for general conference, it’s proper for sacrament meeting.
  21. I tithe the Social Security disbursements I receive, because over the course of my life I will have taken out substantially more than I “paid into the system”; most people do. Also, my former employer has paid Social Security taxes in my behalf.
  22. Thank you very much indeed for your remarks, Jesse. When I posed the question to you, I was confident your response would be candid, thoughtful and astute. You did not disappoint. Your comment about “monastic spirituality” has caused some thought on my part, if not a touch of what the late Swedish cleric Krister Stendhal called “holy envy.” I think we do need more of that. Recognizing that I might not be fully grasping your meaning, I’ll say that I do believe there is considerable scope for such a thing within our church’s teachings and the very frequent exhortation we are given to study and prayerfully contemplate the scriptures. We are taught that scripture reading, more than just intellectually edifying, can be and very often is a catalyst for divine communication, what we call “personal revelation.” We need to do more of it and do it more earnestly. From the time they are very small, our children are taught to sing a song called “Search, Ponder and Pray” (pardon the absence of the Oxford comma there 😉). It refers to scripture study and meditation accompanied by prayer and the resulting reception of guidance through the Holy Spirit. I appreciate very much the kindly spirit of tolerance and understanding that attends your interaction with us here. I’m sure others do as well.
  23. Kinda sounds reminiscent of Reel’s tithe-the-surplus mindset. In my mind, I don’t really have a surplus. There’s a use for all of my income. So if I were to adopt that mindset, I’d never pay any tithing.
  24. Yeah, that’s pretty much how I’d do it. I’d want to have a personal savings account too, though, for personal or family emergencies. And I’d want to invest some in a mutual fund or Roth IRA.
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