The Origin Of (Our) Species in General Discussions Posted March 10, 2015 Let's look at it: And now, behold, if Adam had not transgressed he would not have fallen, but he would have remained in the garden of Eden. And all things which were created must have remained in the same state in which they were AFTER they were created; and they must have remained forever, and had no end. In other words, the state of no death is applied only to the finished creation, not the process (Evolution) itself. In some places, yes. And even my own timeline place the state of no death before the Fall, thus satisfying the doctrine. However, notice also that in other places the doctrine notes that Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden into....what? Thus implying a local garden state. The scriptures themselves show the garden was physically local. The official doctrine of the LDS Church on this section is as follows: “‘The book which John saw’ represented the real history of the world—what the eye of God has seen, what the recording angel has written; and the seven thousand years, corresponding to the seven seals of the Apocalyptic volume, are as seven great days during which Mother Earth will fulfill her mortal mission, laboring six days and resting upon the seventh, her period of sanctification. These seven days do not include the period of our planet’s creation and preparation as a dwelling place for man. They are limited to Earth’s ‘temporal existence,’ that is, to Time, considered as distinct from Eternity.” (Whitney, Saturday Night Thoughts, p. 11.) https://www.lds.org/manual/doctrine-and-covenants-student-manual/section-69-80/section-77-questions-and-answers-on-the-book-of-revelation?lang=eng Here we have more room for a long creative period in which the rules of dispensations don't apply. The only question then, is what does 'temporal' mean? The official doctrine of the Church is that plants and animals were here before man (see the OT Insitute manual). That is outside D&C 77's notion of temporal time. I agree completely with the 1909 statement. In no way does it preclude the Evolution of man's physical body exactly as today's science describes it. Man himself is a combination of a physical body (created by God via Evolution) and a spirit, which is a literal spirit child God. Evolution therefore, does not imply that man comes from lower orders of animals as it not even claim to describe (or preclude) the creation of man's spirit.Well, I guess its all up for interpretation. My only real grunt with it is that both the 1909 statement and the scriptures define Adam as being the literal physical lineage of God. Thus, we ourselves have the very seed of God within us because we were indeed made from his very seed. What would be the purpose of man and woman to be resurrected and be sealed in the temple together? Its so that their "seed" may continue into eternity. That physical body, coupled with reproductive organs for the Gods have that very purpose of perpetuating their seed, otherwise there is no reason to be together forever. I also find it interesting that the Gods actually go down to earth when it is time to create man. Why? Because it was and is necessary for the Gods to procreate Adam and Eve on the earth. The scriptures record the physical lineage of all the great Patriarchs from Moses, through Noah and then to Adam and then from Adam to God himself. We all thus are very seed of God, of royal lineage, and as such entitled to, through obedience, to all that our Father hath. Its a beautiful and true doctrine. We are not the lineage of pre-adamites from the lower orders of animals. We ourselves are not animals, no, we are the very physical sons and daughters of God. His seed abounds and perpetuates through us.