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  1. The temple in SLC was originally commissioned, built, and owned by the Grand Lodge F&AM of Utah. It was later sold to the local Masonic Temple Association; the Grand Lodge is a tenant there, as are various local lodges and appendant bodies. Its lodge rooms inside are all specifically built for the Craft degrees; SR degrees are often done in its auditorium (it has various backdrops on its stage that are over 100 years-old). I don't have any literature in my physical library concerning alcohol among pre-Columbian indigenes of the Americas, but this is a good resource on the matter; most tribes and cultures did not use alcohol, but some did.
  2. Exactly. Even John C. Bennett, who was a Mason and who was excommunicated from the Church, never published anything to do with stealing from Freemasonry in any of his inflammatory writings against Joseph or the Church.
  3. Thanks, bud! I'll let you know whatever I come across. I hope to join SR here in the next couple of years, just depends on if we're actually opening an AMD chapter here first; but yeah, I've had my eye on those SR courses for quite some time. I do enjoy hearing those conspiracy theories 🤣. You mentioned the SR consistory; are you referring to the Masonic Temple on South Temple Street? I agree that it's gorgeous; I've visited it three times now and I am awestruck every time that I go in. If you ever get a chance to have a tour, I very much recommend it. I'm aware of what's going in YR. It's quite disappointing, to say the least. Hopefully it will not last for too long, whether via the GE correcting itself or via the special conclave that's being called. On a happier note, next month is our YR department conference and I plan on finishing the Leadership Training program there.
  4. Wow! I'm not quite ready to buy yet; I'm currently saving up for another bookshelf and want to make a list of books to fill it over time. I appreciate the offer and, once I've made up my list, I'll reach out to you to see if you have what I'm looking for and if you're willing to part with them. In the meantime, what books in particular would you recommend?
  5. I am currently working on building my physical library. Right now, it is confined to a single bookshelf. Subjects that I am currently focusing on are the Gospel and Church history. In particular, I am working on getting what I can (slowly but surely) from the Joseph Smith Papers. I currently have the first two volumes of Saints. I of course have the Standard Works, have invested in Robert Alter's translation of Genesis (hope to get the rest of his translated works), and have Hugh Nibley's works and History of the Church on my list. Do any of you have any recommendations of other books to invest in concerning the Gospel and Church history?
  6. I think that I missed the other thread referenced by the OP, so I apologize if my reply here does not address the conversation. Symbols are finite and ambiguous; there is no one symbol that, in and of itself, is limited to a sole group or interpretation. Within the Gospel, symbols are used as physical expressions convey eternal principles and to represent covenants made.
  7. Robes aren't found in Freemasonry either; we typically wear suits or tuxes with our Masonic aprons. I have seen robes worn during allegorical plays in Royal Arch Masonry, but I'm not aware of any record of any of the Church's presidents ever having joined the Royal Arch.
  8. At one time, perhaps. However, funeral potatoes are now available across the United States, thanks to Wal-Mart.
  9. At one time, perhaps. However, funeral potatoes are now available across the United States, thanks to Wal-Mart.
  10. He Walked the Americas is a compilation of American Indian oral traditions that seem to be about Christ. From what little I've been able to glean about the author, I do not think that she was a member of the Church.
  11. I had no idea that it used to say this, so you have taught me something new and valuable. Thank you. 🙂
  12. I know you said it was extraneous, but I just wanted to share that the Promethean Adam hypothesis allows for evolution and the Creation to have occurred. Sorry for adding to the extraneity.
  13. Yes, just as being a disciple of Christ and striving for eternal life in the presence of the Father are also voluntary.
  14. I was not aware of this. Thank you for sharing it. 🙂
  15. Thank you for sharing this. This is the first time that I will have had the opportunity to attend one of their conferences.
  16. This is a fair point. Not all ritual is the same. The jurisdiction of the United Grand Lodge of England alone works 80+ rituals (although this is not common; mostly each U.S. grand lodge jurisdiction employs their own singular ritual). That stated, insofar as the similarities between the Church's temple endowment ceremony and the degree ceremonies of Freemasonry, I do believe that the best comparison would with the ritual of the Grand Lodge AF&AM of Illinois since that's the jurisdiction in which Joseph was initiated. Ritual seldom changes, especially within a single jurisdiction. I would be very surprised if the Illinois ritual were drastically different today from how it was back in Joseph's day. Insofar as SRICF in Utah goes, they might be meeting in person now; our blue lodges are allowed to work in person as well as many appendant/affiliate bodies (i.e., York Rite); also, on a tangent, we might be opening up Utah's second AMD chapter here in St George soon, so I'm pretty excited. 😁
  17. Correct. Same with Joseph Smith,, Jr, George Washington, Paul Revere, Joseph Warren, Porter Rockwell, Joseph Smith, Sr, and just about anyone else. In fact, it was required by the by-laws of Nauvoo Lodge (just as by any other lodge's by-laws; written under the entry for 30 December, 1841) that petitions be submitted by those who wished to join:
  18. For having happened around 30 years ago, your experience would have been quite out of the norm. In fact, I have come across various Masons from other grand lodge juridictions who jump to the conclusion that, if someone received an invitation, it must have come from a member of a fake Masonic lodge; some are often quite surprised when they find that my own jurisdiction (which theirs recognizes as legitimate) is now allowing for us to invite others to join. I'm not saying that the person who invited you was (or was not) a fake Mason, mind you; that's simply the conclusion that many come to due to the longstanding Masonic requirements to petition for membership.
  19. As the author who contributed that article to MasonicFind, I can tell you that you are confusing Freemasonry with those appendant/concordant and affiliate bodies (which are separate) mentioned therein. I personally had to petition to become a Mason. As the former chairman of my lodge's investigation committee, I have gone over the petitions of scores of people who wanted to join the lodge. I also contributed an article to MasonicFind on how to join Freemasonry, which includes the step of petitioning.
  20. I am not aware of any grand lodge jurisdiction that gains membership by invitation only. It is traditional that one must ask to join. The grand lodges that allow Masons to invite others to join seem to be in the minority (and this is a relatively recent phenomenon).
  21. This is actually a jurisdictional matter (meaning that it varies from grand lodge to grand lodge). Most grand lodges do not allow it. Mine, however, does. The wording with which most grand lodges take issue in their constitutions, by-laws, etc. is that nobody should join due to "improper solicitation of friends." If a grand lodge changes its legislation to provide a certain definition for "improper," then Masons under that grand lodge jurisdiction can invite others to join so long as those invitations do not go against that definition. That stated, I would agree that most grand lodge jurisdictions do not allow their members to invite others to join. I would also agree that, even in grand lodge jurisdictions that allow it, Masons themselves who are accustomed to the previous tradition simply do not extend such invitations, perhaps out of comfort of not changing (I might fall in this category).
  22. Sure enough, you are right. I never noticed that phrasing before, so I am glad that you pointed it out. It's located here.
  23. I personally doubt it, but I could be wrong. The same channel that interviewed me about Masonry published a video on this very topic:
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