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    I enjoy reading historical novels. I also enjoy participating in my local Masonic organizations.

    I get a kick out of speaking Spanish (even though my ability to speak it has substantially deteriorated), French (amateur student), and Cherokee (in which language I am nothing more than a novice).

    Aviation intrigues me. I hope to be a pilot before long.

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  1. I had no idea that it used to say this, so you have taught me something new and valuable. Thank you. 🙂
  2. I know you said it was extraneous, but I just wanted to share that the Promethean Adam hypothesis allows for evolution and the Creation to have occurred. Sorry for adding to the extraneity.
  3. Yes, just as being a disciple of Christ and striving for eternal life in the presence of the Father are also voluntary.
  4. I was not aware of this. Thank you for sharing it. 🙂
  5. Thank you for sharing this. This is the first time that I will have had the opportunity to attend one of their conferences.
  6. This is a fair point. Not all ritual is the same. The jurisdiction of the United Grand Lodge of England alone works 80+ rituals (although this is not common; mostly each U.S. grand lodge jurisdiction employs their own singular ritual). That stated, insofar as the similarities between the Church's temple endowment ceremony and the degree ceremonies of Freemasonry, I do believe that the best comparison would with the ritual of the Grand Lodge AF&AM of Illinois since that's the jurisdiction in which Joseph was initiated. Ritual seldom changes, especially within a single jurisdiction. I would be very surprised if the Illinois ritual were drastically different today from how it was back in Joseph's day. Insofar as SRICF in Utah goes, they might be meeting in person now; our blue lodges are allowed to work in person as well as many appendant/affiliate bodies (i.e., York Rite); also, on a tangent, we might be opening up Utah's second AMD chapter here in St George soon, so I'm pretty excited. 😁
  7. Correct. Same with Joseph Smith,, Jr, George Washington, Paul Revere, Joseph Warren, Porter Rockwell, Joseph Smith, Sr, and just about anyone else. In fact, it was required by the by-laws of Nauvoo Lodge (just as by any other lodge's by-laws; written under the entry for 30 December, 1841) that petitions be submitted by those who wished to join:
  8. For having happened around 30 years ago, your experience would have been quite out of the norm. In fact, I have come across various Masons from other grand lodge juridictions who jump to the conclusion that, if someone received an invitation, it must have come from a member of a fake Masonic lodge; some are often quite surprised when they find that my own jurisdiction (which theirs recognizes as legitimate) is now allowing for us to invite others to join. I'm not saying that the person who invited you was (or was not) a fake Mason, mind you; that's simply the conclusion that many come to due to the longstanding Masonic requirements to petition for membership.
  9. As the author who contributed that article to MasonicFind, I can tell you that you are confusing Freemasonry with those appendant/concordant and affiliate bodies (which are separate) mentioned therein. I personally had to petition to become a Mason. As the former chairman of my lodge's investigation committee, I have gone over the petitions of scores of people who wanted to join the lodge. I also contributed an article to MasonicFind on how to join Freemasonry, which includes the step of petitioning.
  10. I am not aware of any grand lodge jurisdiction that gains membership by invitation only. It is traditional that one must ask to join. The grand lodges that allow Masons to invite others to join seem to be in the minority (and this is a relatively recent phenomenon).
  11. This is actually a jurisdictional matter (meaning that it varies from grand lodge to grand lodge). Most grand lodges do not allow it. Mine, however, does. The wording with which most grand lodges take issue in their constitutions, by-laws, etc. is that nobody should join due to "improper solicitation of friends." If a grand lodge changes its legislation to provide a certain definition for "improper," then Masons under that grand lodge jurisdiction can invite others to join so long as those invitations do not go against that definition. That stated, I would agree that most grand lodge jurisdictions do not allow their members to invite others to join. I would also agree that, even in grand lodge jurisdictions that allow it, Masons themselves who are accustomed to the previous tradition simply do not extend such invitations, perhaps out of comfort of not changing (I might fall in this category).
  12. Sure enough, you are right. I never noticed that phrasing before, so I am glad that you pointed it out. It's located here.
  13. I personally doubt it, but I could be wrong. The same channel that interviewed me about Masonry published a video on this very topic:
  14. It is my own personal and subjective speculation that, after God had revealed to Joseph the pertinent doctrine and covenants for the endowment, it was left up to Joseph how to convey those doctrine and covenants to the membership.
  15. I often consider just singing the Primary song "The Church of Jesus Christ" just to see how weirded out the asker feels once they realize that, for a small time, I have trapped them in a miniature, real-life musical. I'm never brave enough to act on that consideration though.
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