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  1. I have nothing to add, I just want to register agreement in stronger terms than just a like.
  2. I still think the biggest own in history was when Jesus told the Pharisees to carry His reply back to Herod with "Go ye and tell that fox.." and then, when hauled before Herod, didn't even acknowledge his questions. From the looks of it Jesus had some lingering respect for at least the office of the Pharisees, high priests, and Pilate, but He had only contempt for Herod Antipas. I wonder how it must feel to be the loathsome individual who murdered John the Baptist on a dare and along the way earned the only personal epithet to ever fall from the lips of the mortal Lord of Sabaoth. Actua
  3. Human beings can catch inspiration for one topic from something unrelated, but the influence of the Spirit comes with a different signature which can be sensed. Intelligence touching intelligence.
  4. All of this is reminding me of a book I was planning to buy called Against Empathy: The Case for Rational Compassion by Yale psychologist Paul Bloom. https://www.amazon.com/Against-Empathy-Case-Rational-Compassion/dp/0062339338 . I had been intrigued by it but ultimately decided not to buy it, but this conversation has reignited my interest and I might get it now. The gist is that empathy, which we view as a basis for moral decision-making in the modern age, is actually "capricious and irrational." We're more inclined to feel empathy for those we view as allies than for those we view as e
  5. They might be experimenting in that direction. A few of the prominent DezNateers who I keep tabs on are definitely amped about it. For what it's worth I don't have the same take on the videos as you do, as is to be expected. Argumentative soundness, like words, exists in the eye of the beholder. Or so I've come to believe as I have slipped into profound disillusionment with the fruits of philosophy and abstract dialogue. @mfbukowski has crashed into my worldview like Mehmet's cannonball into the venerable but outclassed Theodosian walls. This is partly why I react to the videos wit
  6. I hope the Molten Salt Reactor happens. I am unabashedly a nuclear power supporter and would love it if an even safer and more efficient model of nuclear power were to arise which could overcome objections based on safety and material disposal. If it does happen, expect Idaho to have an economic boom. There's enough thorium in Lemhi Valley to power the United States for centuries at current rates, and that's before you get to all the thorium in the rock formations around Rexburg and Idaho Falls. We're talking some of the largest deposits in the world.
  7. Never has a generation been able to hop so quickly between challenge and recreation. Most of our work is on computers. Most of our recreation is too, and the boundary between the rigorous and the relaxing is only ever as much as a Chrome tab. Our favorite media (Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok) are optimized for brief visual engagement. If you want to get something done with Gen Z (as a generalized stereotype, of course, but not without descriptive merit) you HAVE to be engaging and attention-grabbing. I find that the younger generation does place more of a premium on confrontation as well. "Ge
  8. Honestly, another language is needed for the rising generation. I have been able to get into the formal scholarship in Interpreter and Dialogue and other places around the 'nacle, and there are many of my generation who have done so, but there are many who are not as easily reached or moved by such methods. That's why the august, respectable, and predictable denunciations of The Show by those who inhabit the commanding heights of CoJCoLDS-adjacent intelligentsia feel like so many category errors. The generation gap is big this time around. Edit: This is not to say that every joke Kwaku an
  9. I think that this is an element of a controversy which is underexplored. This Is The Show is not a reaction to criticism from the likes of Vogel, Smith, Thomas, Larson, Bokovoy, or Townsend. It's a response to r/exmormon, Zelph on the Shelf, Missed In Sunday School, and the like.
  10. The article is quite right in that niceness for its own sake can be a problem. I tend to think that if a desire to appear respectable constrains one's witness, then the situation is effectively the same as that of the Pharisees praying loudly on a street corner: "ye have your reward." However, President Eyring is also right in that stereotypical "niceness" can be a useful stance with which to approach critical dialogue. Admittedly, Jesus Christ did not approach it in this way, but I'm not sure how relevant that is for our time. I don't buy the argument that "Jesus had perfect judgement a
  11. These paintings look beautiful. Here's hoping we get more information about them. @Sevenbak, how old were those paintings in Southern Utah which you examined?
  12. I never said that. You're looking for @Robert J Anderson.
  13. Rorty is back in style. By the way, I'm back on the board for a bit. Let's have some fun.
  14. I don't know, wouldn't the birth experience be painful for the infant? Don't children who die before the age of 8 still experience pain? I'd say they do. Enough at least to know for themselves some disadvantages of a fallen mortal condition, or separation from God. I'd say that children, just by virtue of their however-brief separation from divine light, learn enough by being in life. They taste enough bitter to know what good is. In any case, I am not convinced that we know enough about conditions on the other side to truly make a judgement. We don't know what these children may have en
  15. I took a break to focus on some other things, but I think I'll pop back in for a bit.
  16. You read the Dispatch too? I know this strays close to politics...but still, good taste.
  17. Thanks for the article. I did read it. I'm afraid that I believe he missed the point. He didn't address spiritual experience and its causes so much as handwave it with an appeal to aesthetics -"The intellectual and moral stains of the world’s religions—the misogyny, otherworldliness, narcissism, and illogic—are so ugly and indelible as to render all religious language suspect"- and promissory naturalism - "a maturing science of the mind should help us to understand and access the heights of human well-being." We've been around the merry-go-round on The Moral Landscape before. Suffice it to say
  18. K-LOVE is a radio station which broadcasts Christian pop music. It's ironic that I denounce it as it's actually my favorite. I enjoy the songs and they're more uplifting than most, so I often listen to it if it's just me in the car. However, the songs are all very fluffy, positive, encouraging, Jesus-loves-you, the-only-scripture-we-ever-reference-is-John-3:16 stuff. There's a ton of songs which address themselves directly to the Savior and basically serenade Him, which I find a little strange given my LDS upbringing which emphasizes a certain formality and decorum when referring to or address
  19. Fair enough, I should be more respectful of people's development.
  20. As you might expect, I would like to raise objections to some of your comments. I disagree. If by "accept" you mean "acknowledge the existence of", sure. They don't have a choice. However, for the settled naturalist, accepting the veridicality of the experience is impossible, so the content of the experience must be dismissed in some way and causally attributed in some way to a form of deception, whether intentional or otherwise. That is not acceptance. That is not taking it seriously. On the contrary, the point of most of these is that God, or at the very least outside s
  21. Oof, sorry about that. I've edited the OP, hopefully the new link works. It'a a link to JSTOR, but this particular paper should be public access. Dumsday doesn't go for the throat in this paper. He brings up a few prominent atheist philosophers like Mackie who have commented that they think spiritual experience is unreliable because it often follows cultural lines, which his data obviously contradicts. The cultural-reinforcement and confirmation-bias arguments against religious experience don't work under these conditions. He includes an addendum at the end saying that it may be easier fo
  22. Shame, I liked his music. I will probably continue to like it, but I can't empathize with his exitmony in the slightest. Me too. It looks like boilerplate non-denom therapeutic-deism K-LOVE fluff complete with the standard eisegesis of the woman at the well and the women in adultery. I can't regard that sort of pseudo-theology as anything even resembling rigorous. The continual modern eliding of the so-called "dark sayings of Jesus" and the entire Old Testament in the name of nigh-idolatrous modern zeitgeist is incessantly frustrating.
  23. Hey everyone! As you may know I've lurked on the forum on and off for about a year, occasionally chiming in on matters of history and philosophy. I've never started my own topic before though, until now, but this is an intelligent community and I want to pick your brains. Philosophically speaking I am deeply interested in the philosophy of religious experience, primarily since religious experience is the root and ground of my own Restored Christian (a demonym I prefer to "Mormon" or "member of the CoJCoLDS") faith, as well as that of the vast majority of believers throughout the ages, and
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