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  1. “ I think this is a good example of applying the scriptures to your own circumstances. “ The physical identifications of the Book of Mormon Civilization with our own Civilization, may make the warnings and admonitions, real and personal for those who care to pay attention. There is a significant difference when we study the scriptures and think they apply to some long last Civilization, as against discovering they apply to our generation. Both the Physical and Human Geography of the BOM, can be used to identify places and people in our modern era, who are actual Nephites, as well as th
  2. The ancient Nephite society and the American South, share very similar social divisions, one segment of the society regarded itself as righteous god fearing people, worthy of the bounty and mercies of God, while viewing the rest of the society as indolent, lazy and lacking in ambition. The despised portion of the society, viewed those who saw themselves as righteous, in a very different manner, rather as hypocrites and oppressors who enslaved and abused them .This atmosphere of hatred and division was never reconciled in the Nephite world, resulting in it’s extinction in a final battle at Cum
  3. The Nephite or kindred people might have lived throughout Central America, but the GEOGRAPHIC REFERENCES given in the Book of Mormon, place the events in the SOUTHERN REGION of Central America. Their buried records were taken from these lands to New York , by ancient explorers, just as ancient records from Egypt and Greece are dug up today, and taken by modern explorers, to their own homeland. Moroni did not have to walk thousands of mile to New York with them, as some doubters and scoffers imply.
  4. If I can find Mosiah beyond the corrupt party machinery of both Democrats and Republicans I would vote, but I am prepared to sit it out and let the Plague of God humble the survivors as the BOM said it will, sad but true.
  5. The Hebrew settlers who arrived in the Central American colony of Nephi, did so in approximately 600 BC. The British Protestants who arrived in the corresponding area of North America, then called the Province of Carolina arrived in 1670, thereby providing corresponding dates, to establish a common Timeline for Ancient Nephites Civilization, and those who are “Likened unto Nephites “in the modern era. The year 2020 - 1670 = 350 , therefore we are 350 years away from our common starting, which would be 600 BC - 350 = 250 BC, for the ancient Nephites. The year 250 BC takes
  6. What might be considered an over simplification of a complex problem may help to explain the pattern of Nephite Civilization in the past. A simplified version of Colonial North America is “ Copied” to Central America and Mexico, to show what might have transpired in that region . While there are many variables in places of first landing and exploration, the end result over time may have been similar, as both the Nephites and the English are thought to be of the House of Joseph. Mexico, with the exception of the Yucatán, would be Central America’s equivalent of Canada, while the America
  7. Yes there would be correlation with both Europe and Africa if you so choose, placing the Book of Mormon events in Italy, if compared with Europe and South Africa if you choose to relate it to Africa, in fact the Protestants in South Africa could be considered modern Nephites, strange but true. The point of all this, is that the World’s Physical and Human Geography is determined by law, therefore when and where we rise and fall is predetermined, hence the admonition , Do unto others as you would have done unto you .........
  8. I realize I have created more questions than answers for some viewers, I will in the future provide two maps, one each of North and Central America, and cross reference them to the Book of Mormon Lands. Let me be clear, I am not suggesting that the events in the Book of Mormon occurred in North America, the comparison is for geographic references only, because the LDS are “ likened unto Nephites.“
  9. The term “Southern Scriptures “ is actually in reference to the Geographic Location where the admonitions and warnings of the Scripture is given. The content of the Book of Mormon was addressed to the Southern Tribes in Central America, identifying specific locations of the wars they fought, the places of refuge they sought, the region they were finally exterminated in , the nature of their Tribal dispute and the different ethnicities among whom they live. Transposing the Geographic divisions of Central America onto that of North America, places the drama of the Book of Mormon, onto the
  10. Thanks for your advice / warning, I am fully aware of the many theories surrounding the Book of Mormon Geography, and the likely resistance that would arise from any contrary view. However this is a discussion board, so I will do what I have to do and let the consequence follow.
  11. “. I would argue that Zarahemla and Bountiful and Ammonihah and such are more analogous to New York and Philadelphia and Boston than they are to Atlanta and Richmond and Raleigh. The land northward was the less-relevant part of the country, not the land southward. “ The land Northward was occupied by Ephraimites, a people likened unto the Yankee Americans, while the South was dominated by Nephites from the tribe of Manasseh. It is important that the Geographic distinction be maintained despite the analogy, so that the important lessons to be learned from the Book of Mormon, is more clear
  12. What might be considered an over simplification of a complex problem may help to explain the pattern of Nephite Civilization in the past. A simplified version of Colonial North America is “ Copied” to Central America and Mexico, to show what might have transpired in that region . While there are many variables in places of first landing and exploration, the end result over time may have been similar, as both the Nephites and the English are thought to be of the House of Joseph. Mexico, with the exception of the Yucatán, would be Central America’s equivalent of Canada, while the America
  13. Deciphering the Geography of the Book of Mormon is a difficult task, and it is understandable for some people to maintain previously held beliefs, though the Church has not fully endorsed any prior theory. I accept and understand that reluctance, but I believe my theory is best supported by the Geographic evidence in the BOM. What I have discovered in my search, is that the Geographic events in the BOM occurred exclusively in the South and not in the North of Central America, where all the Archeological Treasures are to be found . Book of Mormon Civilization may best be equated to the Southern
  14. I hear ya , but this time I found the Hobbits, I think, I hope.😅😅
  15. What might be considered an over simplification of a complex problem , may help to explain the pattern of Nephite Civilization in the past. A simplified version of Colonial North America is “ Copied” to Central America and Mexico, to show what might have transpired in that region . While there are many variables in places of first landing and exploration, the end result over time may have been similar, as both the Nephites and the English are thought to be of the House of Joseph. Mexico, with the exception of the Yucatán, would be Central America’s equivalent of Canada, while the American
  16. Alma 22:29 29 And also there were many Lamanites on the east by the seashore, whither the Nephites had driven them. And thus the Nephites were nearly surrounded by the Lamanites; nevertheless the Nephites had taken possession of all the northern parts of the land bordering on the wilderness, at the head of the river Sidon, from the east to the west, round about on the wilderness side; on the north, even until they came to the land which they called Bountiful Alma 22:29 indicated that the head of the River Sidon was to the North, thereby eliminating the Atrato River and Colombia’s Chocó
  17. There is a possibility that the Land of Nephi began at the Southern border of Panama and extended North to the Estuary indicated by the lower arrow, at which point it borders the Land of Zarahemla, which ends at the Panama Canal, indicated by the upper arrow. The River Sidon which flow across the Land of Nephi would be that which empties in the Estuary shown. Geographic clarity in the Book of Mormon is sometimes difficult to determine.
  18. [Alma 22:32 ] describes a portion of the border between Desolation and Bountiful, that takes a day and a half to cross, which is East of Lake Nicaragua . [Mormon 3:5, 2:29] further describe the narrow portion to the West of Lake Nicaragua.
  19. From this narrow passage / neck of land, Hagoth built and launched his Ships into the West Sea, and by sailing Eastward across Lake Nicaragua to it outlet in the San Juan River, he could and probably did send ships into the Caribbean Sea. Alma 63:4-9
  20. The geographic references given for the lands bordering Desolation and Bountiful, identifies two specific land marks , a “ Narrow Passage “ and lands which took a “ Day and a Half to Cross” to cross. On the Western side of Lake Nicaragua is the “Narrow Passage”, while on the Eastern side of the lake is the land that takes a “Day and a Half to Cross”. These features identify Nicaragua as the land Desolation , these geographic markers do not exist in Guatemala or relate to the other markers given for the various lands to the South. On a purely geographic basis I make these claims.
  21. This was a spiritual insight given to the Nephites, warning that Pride and Vanity separates man from the Justice and Protection of God . A lesson they failed to heed , resulting in their destruction at Cumorah.
  22. Joseph Smith may have relied on his God given intuition to asses this document in a time of turmoil, and got it partially wrong, because Prophets do make mistakes as the Bible indicated.l say partially wrong because two Civilizations in conflict, would interpret each other’s inaugural ceremony of a leader, not as an act of blessing but as an act of evil, as did Joseph Smith the Hebrew, in his interpretation of this Egyptian document.
  23. What if he did, both the Bible and Book of Mormon have quotes and Prophecies that are clearly cross reference to other Prophets, eg Isaiah is extensively quoted in the Book of Mormon, does that constitute an act of deceit , if that is what is being implied.
  24. And the large and spacious building, which thy father saw, is vain imaginations and the pride of the children of men. And a great and a terrible gulf divideth them; yea, even the word of the justice of the Eternal God, and the Messiah who is the Lamb of God, of whom the Holy Ghost beareth record, from the beginning of the world until this time, and from this time henceforth and forever. 19 And while the angel spake these words, I beheld and saw that the seed of my brethren did contend against my seed, according to the word of the angel; and because of the pride of my seed, and the temptation
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