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  1. Yes, this is going to be another hot topic, loaded issue.

    I was talking to a friend of mine about life in general. The good, bad, and what the heck issues in everyday life. The subject turned to why some pastors and so many Christians never talk about or address the hard issues in life like abortion, suicide, same sex, death penalty, and other similar topics? My friend feels like these topics are loosely at best talked about as a side line issue or a conversation tid bit, but more often than not, they are not addressed by many pastors and many Christians. He finds this to be the case alot through church and Christian life. As if people are afraid to bring up such hard issues so they rather go with softer issues. Once that don’t stir things up. He feels we are avoiding issues we should be addressing for the sake of ourselves and society. He feels that we are too afraid to bring up these issues in any real way and to afraid to offend people and loose the support of people. He asked how many believers have the courage to be true believers? This was a very involve conversation and I was not sure what to say. I was not expecting such a deep thought conversation. I was not at all offended by him and gave him credit for expressing his feelings so open and respectful. Never the less, I was at a lost to respond so I struggled in the conversation. Anyways, I am bringing this whole thing here to see what others think. Are we lacking courage to be true believers and address the hard issues in life more directly? Are we too afraid of the drama or back lash we might get? If the fear is there, wouldn’t that be us giving into the fallen world and making that our focus? I am lost in all of this and just seeking understanding. Any thoughts?

  2. @ Pa Pa ... So should this thread be removed?

     

    @ rpn ...Thank you for clarifying what you where saying. I did get a different meaning before. I don't know about the cures. I just know that people should have the right not to suffer and the legal system shouldn't deny them that right. In the right to die, the legal system does just that and with my experiences, it's wrong.

     

    ** Everyone has the right to be believe what works best for them. I am not here to post anything to insult or judge anyone's believes. I just needed to get a release out for my own believes because the story of this young lady stirred up emotions I need not to carry around in me.

  3. The use of the so-called 'Pain Card' to defend assistant suicide is a valid defense in some cases. In the case of terminal case, such as this woman has my dad died of, it is justified because letting someone suffer is so not justifiable. The legal system has failed the basic rights of humanity to not allow the suffering of terminally ill cancer patients to end as comfortable as possible. If I was in this place with my life ( and I pray I never am ) I would want my right to end my suffering and those who love me from suffering. I think unless you have seen a love one suffer so badly as this, it's hard to understand being pro-right to die. I get that, but my focus and heart is on the suffering and not the outsiders who don't understand that.

  4. I know this subject is very hot and loaded. Perhaps too much for me to be posting it here. It is also a subject very close to home and heart for me so I wanted to say something.

    Read this young lady’s story. [ http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/26782974/terminally-ill- ] It’s heart breaking, but a reality for so many people older and younger people than her and their family and friends.

    My dad died of terminal lung cancer. He didn’t have the right to die because of the state he lived in. So he suffered in pain and very strong medications that messed with his head. He suffered minute by minute, day after day until his final breath came. His final breath was brutal and painful. He suffered because he didn’t have the legal right not to. My mother was there with him all those days and to the very end. She suffered in her own way too and has these horrible memories of his suffering. A man she loves and these are the memories she has had to have in her day after day, year after year because the legal system didn’t allow him to die with dignity or peace. The legal system failed horribly in this case. My family also watched my dad die and they suffered as well. My aunt, my uncle, my grandma-in-law, a close friend of mine all died in similar fashions and suffer for the same stupid, idiotic reason my dad did. The legal system did not give them the right to die as they felt fit to given they were terminally ill with no realistic chance of suffering beyond the pain and suffering for the short time they had left. It’s wrong.

    To say to someone that they can not die as they feel fit to and thus have to suffer so horribly and prolong and have their love ones see and remember that is wrong. Been there more than once and have yet to see where it’s right to deny the right to die of the terminally ill. I know there is a lot of debate and people say that no one should take their life’s, even the terminally ill, but I say bull. Watch someone you love suffer to horribly for so long until their final moments come and say what then? That the quality of life ( the suffering ) was worth the denial of the right to die for terminally ill? Watch it happen with more than one as I have and say what? At least their death was legal. Was morally correct. Say what to justify such unnecessary suffering of a human being, a love one.

    I am a Christian and understand this issue with in the faith, but I also believe that there is some consideration and grace to those who are terminally ill and suffering. I am ‘Pro Right To Die’ because I know what it’s like not to be.

    Sorry about this post. It was a rant because this young lady’s story brought up some very deep and painful emotions I try not to feel.

  5. This would be one of my biggest fears in my Christian faith. If I knew too much. Sounds stupid right? I know, but give me a minute and I’ll try and clarify what I mean.

    I don’t mean I want to be stupid with in my own Christian faith. Not at all. I want to explore, learn, grow and share my faith. However, I am human. Human brain with the primitive limitations. I am okay with this. I can go without knowing more than what my brain was ever designed to know.

    I have had a moment after I became a Christian where I wanted to know everything. I mean, why this and why that and how about this and because of that. So many, many questions I wanted ask and find answers to. Understand and discover the truth on so many things with in my faith and scriptures. I think this might be normal for alot of Christians, especial right after becoming a Christian. The excitement and joy that drives the desire to know more and more. It’s normal and perfectly okay.

    However, the reality as I have discovered for myself is that I will never know it all or have all my questions answered. It’s just the way it is for me. All my heart’s desires to learn and know and be can not give me all the answers and knowledge I seek. Just not going to happen. Could be apart of the fact that I have a human brain that is limited in it’s own primitive nature. So even if I had the full scope of knowledge, would my brain really grasp all of it correctly? Probably, almost guaranteed not. Plus, If I recall right, there is scripture that tells us that will not know everything until we get to heaven. At such time, all will be revealed to us. So why would I try to get something that is clearly not going to be given to me right now. Like banging my head on a wall, it might be more problematic for me to seek more than what I can find at this time. This is not to say that I want to stop seeking or learning or even asking questions. I don’t. I love learning and sharing what I have learned. I am just saying that I have to accept that I have learning limits while I am on earth and I need to be okay with that. I am okay with that. I can be at peace with not knowing all I want and still going forward in the excitement and joy of my faith.

    Another example on this would be my car. I drive my car. I know the basics on how to operate it. From driving it to putting gas and air in it to checking the fluids and even batteries. However, I pop the hood and wow...what the bleep is all that stuff and how does all that make my car work? No clue. I am not mechanic or electronic expert. I have no clue to the wires and tubes and strange do dads and all. But never the less, I still get in my car and go forward to where I want to and need to and I do it with as much enjoyment as I can. Same with my faith. I don’t understand all of it, but enough to know how to move forward with it to where I want and need to go and can enjoy the journey forward.

    So for me, I don’t want to know too much. I want to be at peace with what I know and keep my excitement and joy in my faith and journey. Some things are best left unknown to me and only known to the one who has the true control and wisdom. Anyways...this is just another rambling post of mine. If you read it, the pain you feel right now is called a head ache. Sorry.

  6. Please understand that this post is about me personally and not in anyway intended to be insulting or judgmental or as a bases for believes for anyone, but me. I am just trying to share in a informative why I have chosen not be become a Mormon. Nothing more and if my post does offend anyone, I so apologize for this as that is certainly not my intentions.

    I have some close friends who are Mormon that I wouldn’t trade for anyone, certainly not on the bases their faith and my are different on the aspect of being a Mormon. I actually was drawn to the Mormons by hearing so many non-Moron friends of mine within the Christian faith making insulting judgments against Mormons, but never actually getting to know any or the faith. I thought such judgments where ignorant. I did not want to make similar judgments based on what I have not made a real effort to discover and learn myself. This has sent me on a journey of discovery about the LDS and Mormons. A journey I am so grateful to have had, but think has concluded. I have learned alot and thus, now have some great Moron friends that mean so much to me. I have a LSD church with in walking distances from my home that I have actually attended a few times.

    One of the things I loved about the LDS was the strong sense of family they have. How much family means. The value and closeness. The priority and heart invested. That is something I have always wanted my entire life and never had. That alone was a huge plus for me. Family is so important to me and The LDS and Mormons seem to really have a true heart for family. How fortunate they are and I am not.

    However, for me, I have found too much different views and opinions of the Moron faith. Believes that varies too wide between the different groups and locations that it feels to be very fractured and multi-sub culture too varied for me to feel solid on. Too many levels of disagreements on too many areas and subjects. How was I suppose to be something that seem to be so fractured and overwhelming as this. This is partly why I decided to respect the LDS and Mormons, but not become apart of them.

    I also have some deep rooted questions about the faith that I can not ever seem to get straight answers on. Concerns of historical facts and bases for certain believes. I have asked so many, many people in the LDS and keep getting answers that seem to side step a direct response. Almost as if the answers are not wanting to be shared for some unknown reason. This just makes me feel uncomfortable. It just does. This is another part of why I have decided not to become apart of the LDS or a Mormon.

    The last part is simply because I disagree with some of the rules. Some of the rules seem to make no sense as believers. They seem to shut the world out at times where the world should be invited in to learn, explore, and grow. Some rules just seem to be over strict and controlling, but without a healthy reason or intent. I have no issues with following rules, but if the rule doesn’t make sense to me, yes, as a person, I am going to struggle with accepting and complying to the rule/s.

    I know may will say that my issues are found in other religions. I won’t disagree with such statements. They are found in other faiths. However, for me, I don’t find them to the same levels or intensity as I do with in the LDS. At a level I can’t find comfort in. So I am not saying that the LDS or Morons are bad or worst or anything. Not what I am saying in this post. I am just saying why I am not going to become a Mormon and why I am going to stay at my current church and in my current faith. Again, I do apologize if this post comes to offense to anyone. I am not trying to offend or hurt anyone. I wish everyone the best and happiness in their chosen faith.

  7. Life with God is a life style that includes church and service duties. It is clear in the scriptures that this is how it works. I can say I like driving and am a good driver, but if I don’t take time out to drive and practice good driving skills, I am just that idiot who is walking and talking on the side wlak. I think it is similar to those who believe, but don’t attend or serve.

  8. I am not a Mormon nor attend a LDS church, how ever, I think your guy’s dress code is great and I wish I had it at my church. I belong to a great Christian church. Most people there have enough of a clue to know they are at church and not to wear certain clothing items. However, they are times where some ladies come in dress like, well, no other way to say it, some ladies come to church dressed like sluts and it’s very noticed in the wrong ways. This is church, not a pick up bar or club. They even have been stopped and told by church staff about their clothing mis-choice, but it still happens. Clothing can be a plus or  negative at church and I think a  dress code is a plus.

  9. Yes, I do believe everything in the Bible did happen and does not need any proof to verify it. Just need to have faith in it. As to the great world flood, science did actually find proof that such a flood happened. I watched it a few months back on a tv documentary. There was physical historical evidence to that so I am sure if we need further proof of other events, in time, science will discover it.

  10. I am wanting to get free ASL training in the state of California, but have not found any options for it. I am wanting to become an ASL interrupter at my church because there is a huge section of society that is not getting the opportunity to be involved in the faith because there is a communication gap no one is addressing. I want to respond to this gap using my own time and asking nothing in return. However, I am unable to get the training I need and can not cover the training at the few schools I have found. Any thoughts?

  11. I believe that we are all given a calling, believers and non-believers both. I think it’s more of a matter to if we hear or want to hear our calling.

    Some may not like what they have been called to do or where they need to go so they ignore the calling and try to justify not ever getting it. I think this applies more to non-believers because they don’t want to believe so they don’t want to answer their calling. However, I do see some believers doing the same thing.

    To what damage this does to kids is beyond my scope to reply.

  12. I am anti-gay, but see no harm to our children to see or be raised by a gay married couple. I just don’t see what the harm of a gay married couple is. But before anyone calls me a hypocrite, let me explain my anti-gay stance. I believe in the Bible and all it says. It says man shall not lay with man as he does with woman. To me, this is saying man shall not engage in homosexuality ( and women as well ). For this reason I am anti-gay. My believe in the Bible is more important to me. If I had to choose, I would chose to band all gay marriages and open relationships just on my believe in the Bible. I may sound hypocritical, but this is how I see homosexuality. It is not harming are kids or adults, but is going against what the Bible tells us.

  13. This is a very interesting subject and thought.

    For me personally, I say yes, religion matters and makes a huge positive difference to millions. Sadly, there are times that it matters in twisted mental ways to some who use it as a justification to hurt others. But good or bad, it does matter and makes a huge difference.

    Also for me, as a Christian, I follow guide lines as a way of living, but I do not claim to have a religion, but instead, a relationship. Religion is something I would say is for my time at my church, but my relationship with God is all the time in my life.

    I may not agree or understand many people’s religions, but it is not my place to judge others or to be hostile to them for believing differently than me. If their religion is of a non hostile nature and they are as well, than I am not to judge them, but to share with them in God’s grace and love. If theirs is hostile than I feel I have an obligation to somehow stop such hostilities.

  14. I am not sure if people are really capable of actual true love. I think society and time both have twisted the real meaning of love into so many different, incorrect definitions that people may not actually understand what actual love is and thus, unable to feel or give it. At least from all those I have experienced seem to be this way other than my child, but a child is more innocent and less tainted by the world. Anyways, I give up on love. I don’t think it is real in our society and people really are able to feel / give it when it ( love ) is so misunderstood. We live in a fallen world perhaps because true love can not longer survive or rise anymore.

  15. I don’t like sounding so negative or bitter, but I know from my own personal experience, just how horribly mean and cruel people can be to each other, including family, friends, and fellow church people. The meanness and cruelness is not limited to general society outside the scope of our social comfort zones or love ones. Sad, but from my personal experiences, this seems to clearly be the case. I wish I had different experiences to feel better, but I haven’t.

    So, what is your opinion about people? Is there hope for people? I personally can not find reasons to have hope for people, but that is just my personal life experience.

  16. Fill in the blanks and answer what Bible book did this come from? ( With knowledge and effort, not a web search. Anyone can web search, but who can give effort and receive knowledge? )

    From ??? Bible book (NIV)
    3 Do ___ __ in a _____ __ ___ the _____ presence. Do ___ _____ __ for a ___ ____, for __ will __ whatever __ _______.

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