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  1. Is Navy practicing social distancing? They do know that they need to make contact to tackle a player from the opposing team, right?
  2. I've posted this before and I'm sure I'll post it again if the need comes up again (because it's so good), but you may gain a greater appreciation of the strength of Joseph Smith's (and Latter-day Saint) doctrine of creation and the eternal existence of intelligences and God's plan of salvation and how it all totally obliterates the philosophical "problem of evil" (the logical problem of evil; the soteriological problem of evil; and the practical problem of evil.) This fits well with the topic of this thread. See: BYU Speeches: Joseph Smith and the Problem of Evil, by David L. Paulsen (
  3. Not that Wikipedia is the fountain of all knowledge, but the article on the "Divine Council" gives a decent overview of the consensus of opinion for the setting of Psalm 82: The bottom line is that the setting for Psalm 82 is the Divine Council.
  4. While I was out on my walk today in beautiful Provo (it's my last day here on this trip so I was soaking up the scenery), I was listening to this talk by Elder Quentin L. Cook from the April General Conference: The Blessing of Continuing Revelation to Prophets and Personal Revelation to Guide Our Lives. And one part of his talk really hit me, and made me think of this topic: This made me think about the early restored church and what preparation that Joseph Smith received for him to be the prophet. Joseph didn't have the opportunity to serve in the church for decades and learn how t
  5. Re: Lectures on Faith I enjoyed the LDS Perspectives podcast on this topic when it came out in 2017: Mystery Solved: Who Wrote the Lectures on Faith? - Noel Reynolds In that podcast, Noel Reynolds lays out very clear evidence that Sydney Rigdon is the author of the Lectures on Faith, and at the time of that podcast he hadn't found any evidence that Joseph Smith ever quoted them or referred to them.
  6. Can you give us a good reason to "buy into" your definition of "wilderness"? From the 1828 Webster's Dictionary: According to the United States definition, it has to refer to a forest. Next, look up the word "jungle".
  7. It's the "God" of Psalm 82 of course! It's likely talking about Heavenly Father. A post on capitalization by @3DOP in the Our Identity and Our Destiny thread (here) got me thinking about the literal meaning of the words in this chapter. You might be interested in what I found. The word translated as "God" or "gods" in the King James Version is the same Hebrew word throughout the entire chapter, and so I wondered how Young's Literal Translation would translate this chapter. This is what I found (here.) I found it interested that the YLT translates both ’ĕlōhîm and ’ēl with a ca
  8. I think I got this way by reading The Great Apostasy (James E. Talmage) when I was a missionary, and some stuff from Hugh Nibley later on, and a few other authors. They would make statements about something from history and they would provide a reference, but I never felt like I could legitimately quote those authors to support my own views without knowing exactly what the source they referenced actually said (and it's tough going with Hugh Nibley's sources, most of them aren't in English). It wasn't that I distrusted what these authors said, but I had to see it for myself. I'll have
  9. Thank you for this. After reading the Willems article yesterday (and I re-read it today) I was struggling to find a way to describe my takeaway from what I read in relation to the Gospel Topic article, and what you say here states the problem quite well. As you say, his article focuses on punishment for desecrators of tombs, temples or stelae, since the Mo’alla inscription no. 8 is a text of that type. But in my reading of his description of the Egyptian world view, this could fall into the category of "challenging the standing religious order". And there's no question that his article
  10. There is definitely more to the story about this "question" and "reply" from Willems than we have been allowed to see in the prior post. I just happen to be in Provo this week, and I popped in at the BYU Library this afternoon and looked up the Harco Willems journal article in the Journal of Egyptian Archeology 76 (1990): 27–54, and I read the whole article just to see if he had any legitimate beef against how it was referenced in the Gospel Topics essay. After reading his entire article I am even more convinced that either Willems was reacting against the "conversation stopper" claim
  11. "Professionally"? Yeah, I should do message boards for a living . The quoting thing is actually kind of tedious. I'm using my laptop with a keyboard and mouse to access this site, but if you are using some other device like a smart phone or iPad or something like that, it may be a lot harder to do. But the way that I do it is highlight a piece of text that I want to respond to and it pops up with a box to "Quote selection", and then I click on that, and type my response following the quote. And I keep going back to the source post to find the next piece of text to quote, and repeat the pr
  12. This is a beautiful experience, thank you for sharing it. This reminded me immediately of the aptly named "Cokeville Miracle", and some of the things the children said about "angels" that were with them at the time of the explosion. Some of these experiences were shared in a 2015, LDS Living article. Ron Hartley, lead investigator for the Lincoln County Sheriff’s Office, had four children who survived the bombing, and he shared some of the things his children and the other children told him after the explosion. This is the part of the article that reminded me of your experience:
  13. Amen to that! And thank you for sharing some of your past experiences. I have been curious as to your interest in this message board and now you have helped me understand. I've only been active on this board for a year, so I'm still trying to get to know people. (It was last September when I began participating on this board regularly. This is my anniversary month).
  14. I wish this could be more evident to people today. We get so hung up on capitalization and italicized words and even fonts, but all of that comes from the choices of the translators or publishers (i.e. did Jesus really speak in "red letters"? ). And all of that gets in the way of the original meaning. But then we'd all need to learn Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic to really understand what's going on. Publishing a translation of the Bible without using uppercase or lowercase would be helpful, but it only addresses part of the problem. And if the choice was made to use all uppercase, then som
  15. I agree, and in this case I think it also depends on how you view the purpose of the Joseph Smith translation. If we view the intent of the project to be producing a complete book of scripture comparable to the Book of Mormon, then it may be more troubling to know that Joseph used other sources to produce it. But if we view it (as I see it) as a project designed to teach Joseph Smith and to get him thinking and asking questions, questions leading to other revelations such as Section 76 of the Doctrine and Covenants (and many others), then using other sources isn't a concern at all. The fact
  16. Now you're thinking. As it says in Luke 6:44: "For every tree is known by his own fruit." When you squeeze fruit you get juice. When you squeeze pits you get just the pits. That sizes it up quite well.
  17. It looks to me like both God of verse 1 and the "gods" of verse 6 are judges. "God... judgeth among the gods", and God asks (of the gods) "how long will ye judge unjustly". But judging is just something that God does, or something gods do. It doesn't make them not God or gods. Nor does it mean that the "gods" are only judges anymore than God is only a judge.
  18. Ok, back to getting serious in this thread (for me). In his LDS Perspectives podcast (Producing Ancient Scripture: Thomas Wayment on Joseph Smith's Use of Adam Clarke in the JST), Thomas Wayment pretty much says the same thing: Another thing I wanted to comment about was in the quote from Radio Free Mormon in the post from Tacenda: The claim that a "dependency"on the Adam Clarke Bible Commentary has been established is highly overblown and misconstrued, since the JST has huge sections that clearly did not come from the Adam Clarke Commentary (like Genesis and Matthew
  19. Some have considered it to be by the hand of Reuben Hedlock from when he was just starting out in his engraving business. The stick figure was an early attempt at drawing the head of the idolatrous priest of Elkenah for Facsimile No. 1 for the Book of Abraham.
  20. You've used this false dichotomy previously. What about other possibilities of what it means to "know" someone? Websters gives several: When Jesus says, "I never knew you", it is with regard to the person's nature or character, their motivations and desires. When he says, "I know you" it is the same as saying, "your behavior is like my behavior", and this is how scripture defines it as I posted elsewhere: Knowing God: 1 John 2:3-6: "And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a l
  21. Incidentally, some critics have claimed that this doodle is the source for the idea of the beheading of Shiz when Joseph was writing the Book of Mormon:
  22. It's in the handwriting of W.W. Phelps. They don't know if Joseph was dictating or not.
  23. The "whole earth" would refer to the lands within the scope of their individual lives. It need not refer to anything beyond the Nephite lands. There's an oft quoted portion of a sermon by Charles H. Spurgeon that discusses this usage of "all" or "whole" as it is used in the Bible: The verses referenced above are John 12:19, 1 John 5:19, and Luke 2:1.
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