Peppermint Patty
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I am ashamed that anyone would show such ignorance here. Unbelievable. I have seen some ridiculous statements but this gets the prize.
mfbukowski,
I have to agree 100%. Part of me is convinced that williamsmith is intentionally trying to stir the pot. I feel dumber for having read his "comments".
Mike Reed, I look forward to reading your book. Congratulations!
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Mapman,
You are going to eat A LOT of good beef. Congratulations on your call!
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If the Gospel cannot accomodate, love, and try.....I say TRY to literally bless ALL people by INCLUDING them, then what the hell good is it at all? And I absolutely DON'T mean in just mere "prattling" in written articles either, but in real life action, words, deeds, etc. "Prattling" about what makes a Mormon is worthless compared to loving people, no matter what their skin color, mental abilities, physical location, mental thinking, or nationality.
Kerry,
Excellent point. If I look at the very best LDS that I know, their lives are all about action, being inclusive and not judging. That is what the Savior expects from each of us. I know I fall short of this ideal, but it's something that I'm always trying to achieve.
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One of my visiting teachers told me today that the Church will announce that all missions will now be paid in full by the Church. I was very skeptical.
Maybe there is something to the rumor? Who knows, but I am still looking forward to Conference.
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"The Notebook"
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Here is a BYU/Utah joke that has become a classic:
Bronco Mendenhall, after living a full life, died. When he got to heaven, God was showing him around when they came to a modest little house with a faded Cougars flag in the window.
"This house is yours for eternity," said God. "This is very special, not everyone gets a house up here."
The coach felt special, indeed, and walked up to his house. On his way up the porch, he noticed another house just around the corner. It was a 3-story mansion that had a 50 foot tall flagpole with an enormous UTES flag, and in every window was the UTE logo.
The coach looked at God and said, "God, I'm not trying to be ungrateful, but I have a question. I was a good coach. I went to bowl games, sent a bunch of my players on to the pros, and I turned around the entire BYU football program."
God said, "So, what's your question?"
"Well," said the coach, "Why does Kyle Whittingham get a better house than me?"
God responded, "Oh that's not Whittingham's house, that's mine".
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Duncan,
Patience my friend, patience. I promise that there will someday soon be a Mrs Duncan to share the mondo bizzaro videos and to attend all of the Star Trek conventions with.
There are plenty of Klingon speaking LDS women out there:
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CINEPRO's IPOD:
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I will start.
I'm guessing this is on Duncan's IPOD:
Nehor's IPOD:
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Since our dog recently died, my kids have been begging for me to get them a cat. I am strongly leaning toward getting another dog because as a child we had a few cats and we never had a good experience with any of them. The truth is that are a lot of bad cats out there, folks.
I present Exhibit A for your viewing pleasure:
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That wouldn't be too hard since they tended to be just variations on the "nose of the week" aliens.
Now Star Wars...they tried to go for a much more varied look.
I am being too harsh about Star Trek....let's not forget they tended to throw in a forehead prosthetic and fancy ear from time to time.
Calmoriah is correct. I love Star Trek almost as much as Duncan and Nehor and I remember the crew constantly traveling across the galaxy and exploring distant planets only to discover they looked just like us except their ears were pointy or they had a nose ridge. I guess the special effects budget for Star Trek was nonexistent.
There is one exception, and this would be the famous Gorn. Sit back and watch probably the best special effects and fight scene between William Shatner and Gorn. They just don't make scenes like this anymore:
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This is a woman’s response to recent threads by Bill Hamblin and William Schryver regarding the importance of the historicity of the Book of Mormon. In my experience, issues such as whether or not The Book of Mormon is historic, debates about geography and DNA are just not that important to most LDS women and certainly not the reasons why they believe in The Book of Mormon or attend Church.
Some interesting facts. Despite women comprising over 60% of the membership of the Church, the majority of FAIR Conference attendees and contributors of FAIR/FARMS are men. Is it possible that LDS women are just not as interested in these subjects as men? Is it possible that women join and stay in the LDS Church for entirely different reasons than men?
Much research attests to the idea that women are more religious than men, hold their beliefs more firmly, practice their faith more consistently, and work more vigorously for the congregation. Some contend that women are socialized to be nurturing and submissive, qualities that make religious acceptance and commitment more likely. Similarly, some social scientists argue that the role of the mother subsumes religiousness, since it involves such activities as teaching the children morality and caring for the physical and spiritual welfare of other family members. Some contend that religious belief is more of an emotional thing than a cognitive thing, and that this explains the disparity.
Whatever the reasons, most LDS women that I know are not really concerned about whether or not the BoM is historical. I have never met an LDS woman who read the BoM and told me that it was a wonderful history book, or frankly was interested in its historicity, DNA or geography. LDS women will tell you the reason they love the book of Mormon is because of how it makes them feel. They are not too interested in the historic details, or even if there are any. I highly doubt that most LDS would have any problem whatsover accepting an inspired Book of Mormon rather than a historic.
In my experience, one of the main reasons women attend Church more than men is that it allows them to focus on achieving personal connections and avoiding social isolation, to feel connected to others. In my LDS experience, women are more emotional and men are more analytical. It is possible that women have a more emotional approach to The Book of Mormon and men have a more analytical approach.
If you don’t believe me, then please feel free to attend the next Relief Society meeting.
Just my 2cents. Thoughts?
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For all of you Trekkie Nerds (Nehor and Duncan):
From “Fletch”:
Sound clip from “Raising Arizona”:
Feel free to add your own to this list. I’m sure there are many, many more…………
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Don't gloat Duncan:
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Very interesting topic. A few months ago, I posted a similar OP on this issue. There were some very interesting and insightful comments. Also, Nehor and Duncan commented.
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You didn't address my point about being fired in a sleazy manner, basically as a slap across your face. That makes it very different. I would feel an obligation to warn others of the dangers of working for that particular employer, and how they're going to be treated.
However, in this case, it's even a bit more different. We're not talking just about employment; we're talking about the struggle between the Church and those who would destroy the Church.
The fact that our enemies applaud both the firing and the change of direction should, again, be disturbing to anyone committed to the mission of the Church.
I applaud Bill, Dan, and others for speaking out on this. It takes a particular amount of courage for Dan to do so.
Trying to get along with wolves only gets you eaten in the end.
Jwhitlock,
Thanks for your reply. I will certainly teach my children that it is necessary and expected as a Latter Day Saint to act respectful, honorably and Christlike if they are ever "fired in a sleazy way".
I guess that I will remain in the minority in feeling that people should take the high road in this situation.
I know that this can't be easy for Mr. Hamblin and Peterson, but I promise that things will turn out just fine for them. In the meantime, I just wish they wouldn't engage in behavior that they might regret later in life.
I will bow out from commenting further on this topic as emotions are running high. Also, I promised my kids I would take them to "Brave".
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Have you ever been fired in a sleazy manner, Patty? If so, what was your attitude towards those who mistreated you long after the fact?
I think the situation has been rather well assessed. That the enemies of the Church are pleased with the changes at the MI should be a real warning flag as to how valid the new direction is. Crockett is just dead wrong in putting the blame for all of this on the apologists, and misrepresenting the situation at the MI as something just benign.
I see absolutely no reason to support the new direction or the people in charge. As Bill Hamblin has put it so well, the change in direction is nothing more than a betrayal of the original mission of the organization by those who have their own agenda.
And that agenda seems to include more outreach and rapport with enemies of the Church.
And that should be very disturbing to anyone committed to the Church and its mission.
Yeah, when I was a teenager, I was fired from Lagoon. I felt that they had no basis for firing me and it hurt. I was confused and my pride was hurt. I think I learned some valuable lessons from that experience.
Getting fired, unfortunately, can happen to the best of us. It can happen even when it's not your fault. There could be a personality conflict between yourself and your supervisor. Management might want to go in another direction. You could have simply screwed up. It happens. You're not alone.
First, do not insult your former boss or employer. It almost always never changes the situation and tends to reflect badly on the fired employee. No future employer likes to wonder if you will talking about them that way in the future.
Second, don't be angry. Feeling angry after being fired is normal. As hard as it may be, and it is hard, you need to get over getting fired and move on. There are always better opportunities out there.
I have learned that how one reacts when being fired speaks volumes of that individual's character.
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Not likely. Looking anti-church at this point.
I wish Hamblin and Schriver would just put a cork in it.
Who cares that Bradford didn't read the Dehlin work? Probably deemed inappropriate in limine.
Looks like Brant escaped being pilloried.
I would tend to agree, Mr. Crockett. It's obvious that feelings have been hurt and that emotions are running high. I just wish that Hamblin, Schriver and Peterson would take some time and cool off. It's always better to assess the situation in a calm and collective manner.
In the long run, I hope that Hamblin, Schriver and Peterson will support and embrace the new direction BYU and the Maxwell Institute are heading. I tend to think everyone will be proud of the future scholarship and efforts from the Maxwell institue.
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LifeonaPlate,
Good stuff. Track number 5, "Sticking it to the Man" is much different than your other songs. It has an almost "Violent Femmes" or "Black Flag" flavor to it. Was this intentional?
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Great post Cal. I'm not very familiar with FAIR or their tactics. I do know that people (of all walks of life) tend to be easily offended, even where no offense was intended. I have seen many LDS take offense or feel attacked where no offense was originally intended.
I guess my thoughts are that we as LDS need to go the extra mile in being charitable, kind, supportive and not offend or take any action which could be perceived as offensive. I would hope that FAIR would strive to be Christlike in their interactions with everyone and all their publications.
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Log,
Video games sure have come a long way. I remember when this was the most technologicaly advanced game:
Pretty awesome graphics for 1982.
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It's important to get along, and be kind, and Christlike and to avoid contention. But to get to truth, a knowledge of things as they are, as they were, and as they are to come, necessarily involves proving contraries, wrestling with different perspectives. Given what is at stake, and given all of our limitations, I think we all ought to give each other a little grace for caring one way or another.
FWIW
Kevin Christensen
Pittsburgh, PA
+1000 You have restored my faith here.
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The only thing that matters to me is that someone in a Church Leadership role (GA or an Apostle) made the decision that this article was inappropriate to be published. For me, this is all that really matters. This decision was made by our Leaders and we should not be questioning the wisdom of such a decision.
It would be interesting to see an email or other corresponce from this GA or Apostle and the reasons they felt this article was inappropriate, though.
Also, I don't think the personal attacks by both sides are justified.
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Here are some funny Canadian jokes I found.
You know you are Canadian when:
You only know three spices: salt, pepper and ketchup.
You design your Halloween costume to fit over a snowsuit.
You have 10 favorite recipes for moose meat.
You live in a house that has no front step, yet the door is one metre above ground.
You think sexy lingerie is tube-socks and a flannel nightie with only 8 buttons.
You owe more money on your snowmobile than your car.
The local paper covers national and international headlines on 2 pages, but requires 6 pages for hockey.
The most effective mosquito repellent is a shotgun.
Your snowblower gets stuck on the roof.
You find -40C a little chilly.
Some of these were kind of funny, eh?
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What Has The New Farms Produced?
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Congratulations Carl. It sounds like you guys have been very busy and VERY productive. I'm glad to know that great things will be shortly forthcoming.
Please tell Mr. Bradford that we all appreciate all of his hard work on behalf of the Maxwell Institute, BYU and the Church. It sounds like it has, at times, been a thankless job for him.