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  1. 4 minutes ago, Pyreaux said:

    My ward in Louisiana redid the gym, removed the commercial carpet, new hardwood floors. I don't know why.

    Because of basketball or other sports. There is too much stopping power on carpets leading to knee or ankle injuries. Hardwood floors allow less friction for gym shoes.

  2. 12 hours ago, Calm said:

    If any man does get that desire to debate as the first response to being told this by a woman they are close to, at that point I really hope they step back and keep their mouth shut for awhile so they don’t lose the chance to learn about her feelings and needs and before engaging with her to debate take the time to think about why they feel they need to change the woman’s mind more than listen to her view, her description of what she does to protect herself from danger. 

    So true. It seems women deal with greater complexity whereas men tend to oversimply things. Let the woman talk out the complexity. Physiological fact: women have more hemispheric brain connections but men have one puny thread connection.

    1 hour ago, Calm said:

    I say this because I think the modesty teaching of women being the gatekeepers of men’s sexual feelings by our appearance, etc is dangerous because it gets applied as a weakness inherent in all men as in they will all be bad unless women protect them from theirselves as opposed to the “all men are potential rapists” adage which is not usually intended to imply there is something wrong or immoral in all men, but rather from the outside we can’t always tell the difference between good and bad men (though some may infer that from it).

    Agree. Even among moslem women wearing the niqab, they are still subjected to rape and violence. Some men do it for thrill, power or something. 
    That said, it still is important to try to reduce divisive rhetoric among all parties.

  3. On 2/14/2024 at 6:51 PM, Calm said:

    And there are plenty of conversations where I do not see the “all men are potential rapists” as useful and it can even mess up understanding.
    I just believe it works for two very limited purposes, both of which are about grabbing attention almost instinctively.
    For me the “all men are potential rapists” serves a very real and necessary purpose by its very ability to shock, it tells me and other women we should never become complacent first off…it is unfortunate, but a real necessity as you can see by the examples of . . .

    On the other hand, shocking in this way could end up being self-defeating. We have been subjected to ever increasing barrage of wild demands and expressions of social justice outrage for years and decades. Just to list a few examples:

    • advocacy for regulations to force installation of a 3rd bathroom to accommodate various uncountable genders
    • tweaking Title IX to force women athletes to share locker rooms with biological men claiming to be tran
    • empowering the medical/industrial complex to perform surgical mutilations and chemical castration of under age children
    • demonizing males or whatever patriarchy
    • underhanded subterfuge by allowing many K-12 administrators to sidestep the rights of parents to be informed when children are being subjected to social experimentation

    These things cause greater polarization. The absolutist statement would likely be considered to be divisive and would tend to shut down dialogue. Thus being prejudicial. My alternative appeals to empathy and invites further discussion. At worse, it might be considered semi-prejudicial.

  4. 43 minutes ago, bluebell said:
      4 hours ago, Calm said:

    Sexual harassment otoh is most likely to occur in public places, which suggests to me that since harassment is a warning sign for assault it is quite reasonable, decent, and rational to use the paradigm of “all men are potential rapists”

    The points being made about the prevalence of sexual assaults of varying degrees are VERY sobering and real. It would be agonizing for it happen to my relatives.

    However the prefix "all men" is still too jarring. The word "potentially" is utterly a blanket condemnation. Would it be better to use non-absolutist terms? How about this? "Women have a very real dread of any man that could suddenly make an assault any time any place."

    After all, there is a significant percentage (hopefully) of men who have NEVER degraded women and would "shake at the appearance of evil."

  5. 18 hours ago, The Nehor said:

    I also find the image of Jesus they are selling to be a “feel good” version. I don’t trust people who use this approach.

    Is there any "feel bad" version? How would you describe it?

    Are you aware that there are at least two parts of the power of Jesus' Atonement? One a free nonobligatory gift of the resurrection (possible for both the righteous and the wicked). The other entails faithful covenant keeping (and unconditional love) in order to attain higher degrees of glory.

  6. 5 hours ago, The Nehor said:
    7 hours ago, longview said:

    It would be prudent for the "one giant university" to regularly provide testing to help both the professor and the students know where they are falling off the mark or maintaining the necessary progression.

    If the professor is omniscient the professor shouldn’t need tests to guide his appraisal.

    Even if the professor knows the outcome, he is gracious enough to allow the student to have the experience and learn how to adjust his short term and long term goals.

  7. 10 hours ago, The Nehor said:

    More likely it is the Lost City of Pnakotus that the Great Race inhabited before they were displaced by the Flying Polyps.

    Or . . . Or . . . Or . . . it could be . . .

    Simon Dannhauer via Adobe Stock Simon Dannhauer via Adobe Stock


    A sunken settlement discovered under Lake Atitlan demonstrates that a type of destruction mentioned in 3 Nephi (waters rising up to cover cities) occurred anciently in the Americas near the time of Christ.


    Book of Mormon Cities Submerged by Water

    After the great destruction recorded in 3 Nephi, the Lord’s voice was heard among the people declaring that the “great city Moroni have I caused to be sunk in the depths of the sea, and the inhabitants thereof to be drowned” (3 Nephi 9:4). The cities of Onihah, Mocum, and Jerusalem suffered similar fates. Concerning them, the Lord declared that “waters have I caused to come up in the stead thereof” (v. 7).

    Samabaj under Lake Atitlan

    In the 1990s, Roberto Samayoa noticed ruins on an underwater plateau while scuba diving in Lake Atitlan, located in the highlands of Guatemala. The site was subsequently named Samabaj, which is partly derived from Roberto’s last name. Eventually, trained archaeologists began to seriously study the area.1 A geophysical survey using side sonar scanning revealed even more man-made structures at other underwater locations along Lake Atitlan’s southern shore.2

    download Team preparing for a dive on Lake Atitlan. Image via Scripture Central. 

    Concerning Samabaj, anthropologist John L. Sorenson noted that the “buildings appear to have been undamaged before their submersion, implying a sudden rise of the water.”3 The site has been described as an “underwater time capsule unmolested by looters and untouched by urbanization.”4 Researchers have found “about 30 ancient homes, a plaza, staircases, and even saunas, among the submerged ruins of Samabaj.”5 It also features “no fewer than 16 religious structures,” including “at least seven stelas, standing stone markers that often signified power and authority in antiquity.”6 Sonia Medrano, an archaeologist involved with Samabaj’s underwater excavation and mapping, described it as “a place of public rituals and pilgrimage.”7

    download Ruins at samabaj. Image via zandersturgill.com.

    The sudden rise in water, which left the 30-acre island submerged under 12 to 30 meters of water, was likely due to local volcanic activity.8 Based on ceramic remains, Sorenson felt that the ruins were from the “Late Pre-Classic period, probably around the time of Christ.”9 Other scholars have provided similar dates, noting that the ceramic remains range between 200 BC and AD 300.10 Sorensen noted that “some finds in the Atitlan area indicate that settlers lived in the vicinity since before the time of Christ, and the smoothed stela at Samabaj points to a date possibly earlier.”11 Medrano dated “the island’s moment of destruction to no later than A.D. 300.”12

    download A pot extracted from Lake Atitlan. Image via Scripture Central. 

    Samabaj and Jerusalem

    In 1985, before the ruins of Samabaj were discovered, Sorenson suggested that the Lamanite city of Jerusalem was situated along Lake Atitlan’s southwestern shore. Sorenson’s proposal was based on several factors, including his belief that the land of Mormon (Mosiah 18:4; 3 Nephi 5:12, 20) was located “near the eastern end of the lake.”13 According to Sorenson’s larger proposed geography, “The spot was also close to the main areas of Lamanite population only a few miles away down in the hot but agriculturally rich piedmont zone.”14

    At the time, Sorensen knew that Lake Atitlan’s water level had “shifted dramatically—by as much as 60 feet within historical times, and up to 15 feet in a single year—so a city located on this shore could understandably be submerged quite abruptly.”15 What he didn’t know then was that remains of settlements were indeed sitting below the water’s surface at Samabaj and other locations near the shore. It is not insignificant that submerged ruins have turned up at the very lake where Sorenson predicted they might be located, in connection with a Book of Mormon location.  


    It remains uncertain if Samabaj and its sudden flooding had anything to do with Book of Mormon peoples or the destruction reported in 3 Nephi. Current estimates date the site’s flooding several hundred years too late, based on the latest samples of ceramic remains at the site. On the other hand, Lake Atitlan’s water level has fluctuated over time.

    Even today, the sudden swelling of Lake Atitlan and the wild swings in its level can be unnerving for local residents as they watch the water creep over town squares and kitchen floors. Since the lake still has no outlet, it can rise as much as 15 feet in a matter of weeks, as it did in 2011, and then just as suddenly retreat. Local people hold title to land that is now underwater. They tell stories about how the lake once reached as high as a nearby church’s walls, and then drained away again like a bathtub. “The Lake is the master of its own destiny,” says Samayoa, “It rises and falls, rises and falls.”16

    According to a UNESCO report of a geophysical survey conducted in 2022, “one or more floods have considerably affected the cultural landscape of the lake.”17 In another instance, the report states that its collection of data is intended to facilitate “understanding of the palaeolandscape, the process of occupation and formation of the site, as well as the onslaught of various floods that led to its abandonment.”18 Thus, whatever the precise date may be for the site’s most recent submersion, more data would be needed to either verify or rule out the possibility of a major flooding event close to the time of Christ’s death.

    download Sillouette of Atitlan's southern shore. Image via anywhere.com.

    Whatever this region’s relationship may be, if any, with the events reported in 3 Nephi, the ruins at Samabaj offer an example of the type of destruction experienced by the cities of Onihah, Mocum, and Jerusalem. Rather than sinking into the sea or having a flash flood come crashing down upon them from above, the Lord declared that “waters have I caused to come up in the stead thereof” (3 Nephi 9:7; emphasis added). This is precisely what happened at Samabaj—the water level of its surrounding lake quickly rose and submerged it.

    < see https://evidencecentral.org/recency/evidence/sunken-cities >

  8. 11 hours ago, MustardSeed said:

    I absolutely do not believe that God gives us tests.  I believe the whole thing is one giant university, and I believe we bring in our own fate, but in no way do I examine life’s events as tests, punishments or rewards from God. 

    It would be prudent for the "one giant university" to regularly provide testing to help both the professor and the students know where they are falling off the mark or maintaining the necessary progression.

  9. 19 hours ago, theplains said:

    I wonder what separates universes so they don't expand into each other. Maybe an astronomer
    would know.

    I am not an astronomer. You could consider the possibility of infinite dimensions. Our universe may have 24 dimensions (of which we are able to percieve 5 or more dimensions). The next universe has its 24 dimensions that do not overlap any of our 24 dimensions.

    Remember Jesus is able to walk thru walls (dimensional shifts?).

  10. 20 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

    It is healthy to expel these people from your spaces. To be clear often the wolves in this metaphor are deeply hurting but there is no way to realistically help them while their goal is to hurt others.

    Sincere question: do you seriously promote the use of puberty blockers?

    Considering that it can cause premature onset of osteoporosis in teenagers and young adults.

    Second question: what do you consider the minimum age for surgical alteration for minors?

    Considering that it destroys the reproductive function and ability to breastfeed.

  11. 12 hours ago, The Nehor said:

    Yes, Riley Gaines has been hard at work promulgating the notion that transgender women have an inherent advantage over cis women in

    Testosterone reduction and testing for trans do nothing to prevent harm to biological women athletes. Even in non-contact sports like swimming and tennis (among others), it is grossly unfair because of the headstart men have growing into their teens. Men have more massive bone structures and much stronger ligament webbings, more powerful upper body strength, and superior endurance. THAT is not mitigated at all by testosterone reduction. There is NO way of leveling the playing field except to make it truly voluntary among ALL participants (mandates by college associations and leagues are evil and unfair). Too many biological women have been severely injured by trans (above and beyond what is normal for same sex competition).

    12 hours ago, The Nehor said:

    *checks notes* chess and that makes sense for some reason no one can explain to me.

    What? Whut u mean?

    12 hours ago, The Nehor said:

    Looks like she just went mask off and made it clear that her opposition was never really about biological sex being an advantage. It is about humiliating transgender people. It always was.

    Mask off? Riley has always been consistent in her reasoning and advocacy. She has never assaulted anyone but her life was threatened by campus extremists (at least once) and actually had to be escorted to a classroom to escape a violent mob throwing punches on her.

    This is yet another vile attempt by you at character assassination which you do too frequently. Reconsider your ways (I recommend you remove this tagline from your signature block that appear under your posts "Always be punching Nazis!" because you risk mobbing people who truly are against totalitarianism <including nazis>).

  12. 8 hours ago, Diamondhands69 said:

    I have the discipline. I just don’t want the account anymore. 

    Because you are in the witness protection relocation program and you must eradicate as much evidence of your existence?  WHOOOPS!

    Just accidentally tipped off the Cosa Nostra.   RUN FOR THE HILLS!

  13. 1 hour ago, Tacenda said:

    Have you seen the testimony of the women Tim abused or allegedly abused?

    This is why due process is SO important. The powers that be want to erase any threat to their priviledges. There are so many disturbing elements concerning Jeffery Epstein and his "pedophile island" and his "supposed suicide" while in jail. All carefully kept obscured and any investigations soft-pedalled. Consider for example the long series of vile character assassinations of supreme court nominees beginning with Clarence Thomas ad nauseum.

  14. 4 hours ago, The Nehor said:

    There are organizations out there that understand the problem, come up with ways to mitigate it, and do good work to help people avoid it and escape it.

    The southern border is hemorrhaging like you would not believe. Untold thousands of minors being brought in by people who are NOT related to them. Too many that are unaccompanied and forced to walk to a certain address. I recently saw a video of a small kid being picked up by good samaritans. He was crying and dusty (because he was abandoned?).

    Now the border patrol are coerced to bring in invaders, removing barb wires, nullifying the "stay in Mexico" policy (put in place by the previous administration), interfering with state officers of Texas and Arizona in their attempts to stem the flow, and on and on. Now the "blue" states (read sanctuary jurisdictions) are pleading for a stop to the deluge.

    Please explain which of the organizations are stanching the abominations? Who are they? How are they doing it?

    4 hours ago, The Nehor said:

    Tim Ballard is the equivalent of someone seeing that Prohibition has some negative impacts and decides to mitigate them by becoming Al Capone and profiting off of it.

    This is puerile and baseless slander. Its what you do too frequently. Vile character assassinations.

  15. 2 hours ago, The Nehor said:

    It is propaganda.

    You can argue about some of the details but do you deny that the number slaves today (be it for sex or drudgery or others) is greater than any time in previous millenniums? Granted that the percentage of slaves may have been greater in the past than today? The amount of trafficking might run to hundreds of billions per year:

    From youth underground website


    The business of human trafficking

    • Human trafficking is the 2nd largest criminal trade in the world after arms.
    • Human trafficking is the fastest-growing illicit trade in the world.
    • Human trafficking generates over $150 billion in profits every year.
    • 40.3 million people are living as slaves worldwide, 5 times the population of Switzerland.
    • Globally, the average cost of a “slave” – a trafficked human being – is $90.
    • The U.S. accounts for almost 52% of global human trafficking with the sex trafficking of minors accounting for the largest percentage. 
    • Traffickers make over $9.5 billion annually in the U.S. alone.

    Children are the prime victims

    • The prime victims of human trafficking are less than 18 years old.
    • There are 5.4 victims of human trafficking for every 1,000 people in the world.
    • 1 in 4 victims of human trafficking are children.
    • Approximately 130 people are trafficked worldwide every hour. Most of these are children.
    • Over one million children are trafficked for the sex trade every year.
    • Approximately 30 million children have lost their childhood to human trafficking in the past 30 years.
    • Some children forced into human trafficking are as young as 4 years old.
    • 4 million people are living in forced marriages. This is slavery.
    • One third of the 15 million victims of forced marriage are under the age of 18. Nearly half of these are younger than 15.
    • 152 million children were victims of child labor in 2016, which amounts to nearly one in every 10 children worldwide.
    • Sexual exploitation earns 66% of the global profits of human trafficking.
    • The average age of a sex trafficked child is 13-14 years old.
    • A pimp can make up to $150,000-$200,000 per child a year.
    • 1 in 3 children who run away from home are approached by a trafficker within 48 hours of their running away.
    • 76% of transactions for human trafficking with underage girls, start on the internet.

    A human rights issue

    • 50% of sexually trafficked and exploited children are male.
    • Male survivors of human trafficking are the silent victims of an already hidden crime.
    • Human trafficking is just one symptom of an enormous refugee crisis – the largest since World War II.
    • There has been a 600% increase in sex trafficking of migrants in Europe over last three years.
    • 600,000 to 800,000 people are trafficked across borders worldwide every year. These figures are the highest ever recorded in history since the slave trade two centuries ago.
    • More than 20,000 minors have disappeared into human trafficking in Europe alone over the last 2 years.
    • At least 10,000 unaccompanied minor refugees have been reported missing after reaching Europe, and many of them are believed to have fallen victim to trafficking.
    • 139 goods from 75 countries are made by forced and child labor.
    • 9 million people are subjected to forced labor every year.
    • Cases of human trafficking caused by climate change in the past 5 years have increased by at least 600%.
    • 75% of victims who were trafficked in the past decade were advertised online.


    What about Switzerland?

    • Switzerland is primarily a destination and a transit country for women, children, and transgender people subjected to sex trafficking.
    • Switzerland is primarily a destination and a transit country for men, women, and children subjected to forced labor, including forced begging and forced criminal activity.
    • Switzerland is home to between 2,000 and 3,000 victims of human trafficking.
    • The majority of human trafficking victims in Switzerland are women and children forced into prostitution, begging and stealing.
    • Some human trafficking victims in Switzerland are as young as 14 years old. Most of the victims have experienced violence and abuse prior to arriving in Switzerland.
    • Switzerland is a destination for foreign trafficking victims primarily from Central and Eastern Europe.
    • Switzerland noted an increase in the number of women trafficked for sexual exploitation from Eastern Europe, specifically Romania.
    • Traffickers in Switzerland get away on suspended sentences, instead of being sentenced to 20 years in prison, the maximum sentence for trafficking.
    • Of the 22 convictions of human traffickers in Switzerland, only 11 resulted in prison time 2016.
    • Switzerland has cases of domestic servitude especially in the diplomatic community, a hidden crime in a sheltered community.
    • The helpline numbers in Switzerland are +41 800 24 7 365 and 0 800 24 7 365, available 365 days a year – around the clock.
    • The Geneva hotline number is 0800 20 80 20 (open from 14:00-18:00 Monday-Friday).
    • For more information, check the Federal Department of Foreign Affairs website.


    Note: Youth Underground is based in Switzerland.

    From Los Angeles Porn Industry


    The girls who do stay in the business doing these niche types of work, soon find the industry is nothing like they imagined. From common practices such as sticking a sponge in their vagina to conceal the blood from continuous penetration to the heavy use of drugs to numb the pain, it is a nightmare for the performers. The suicide rate among pornographic actors and those in the sex industry as a whole is one of the highest per capita because of this. Most of the women who stay in the industry long term either get addicted to drugs, pick up abusive habits or worse.

    The above are just part of the tip of the iceberg.

  16. On 12/28/2023 at 4:08 AM, Calm said:

    Sound of Freedom is now on Amazon Prime.

    My wife and I watched it last night. A very powerful and compelling movie.

    It looks to be a terrifying environment to break into. Takes an enormous effort to gain the necessary intelligence to even begin planning a rescue operation.

  17. It is a progressive process for both righteousness and wickedness. If a person commits a wrong, he may feel naughty, daring or whatever. He might take delight in it. If that person keeps doing the wrong thing, he will branch out to more serious sins and feel justified with them. It becomes a downward spiral and the person begins to walk in darkness at noonday.

    Same thing happened with Cain. He was taught correct principles by Adam and Eve and even talked with God. But he dabbled a little bit with Lucifer and progressively became more "deranged". To the point of committing the brazen murder of his brother Abel.

    2 Ne 26:22 And there are also secret combinations, even as in times of old, according to the combinations of the devil, for he is the founder of all these things; yea, the founder of murder, and works of darkness; yea, and he leadeth them by the neck with a flaxen cord, until he bindeth them with his strong cords forever.

    Psalms 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

    Psalms 129:4 The Lord is righteous: he hath cut asunder the cords of the wicked.

    Proverbs 5:22 His own iniquities shall take the wicked himself, and he shall be holden with the cords of his sins.

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