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  1. On 2/22/2019 at 1:20 PM, HappyJackWagon said:

    Is it possible for a faithful member to confess that there are legitimate problems in Mormon History and doctrine,

    Forty  years of apologetics, just another day at the office.  Most "confessions" are simply an admission of ignorance -- lack of preparation.

    Finally, to agree to a live voice debate is to set yourself up for failure unless you are really really good.


  2. On 2/20/2019 at 4:29 PM, CAS said:

    I am curious if people believe there is an actual relationship between faith and:

    I  love yes or no questions.  It's so easy to impress someone with your answers.

    1. Education, does it strengthen or weaken faith?


    2. Types of callings, does being a Teacher help one be more faithful than say a Family History Consultant? Are there callings that appear to be more likely to increase a person’s faith?

    Yes and no.  Depends on the individual 

    3. Family background, persons from a strong by the book family - do they tend to have more success rearing faithful children and being faithful members themselves?

    Hmmmm.....  You got me on that one.  It is a matter of research, and I suspect several studies have been done on it.

    4. Those who claim to have felt the Holy Ghost, do they tend to have stronger faith?

    5. Regular daily scripture study, does this help make a person more likely to be faithful?




  3. On 2/22/2019 at 10:17 AM, hope_for_things said:

    He's not even attempting any sense of objectivity.  This kind of apologetics is poorly done and a throw back to the less rigorous and hard nosed style of the past.  I expect that it will actually do more harm for Stephen's cause than good.  

    Let's do a thought experiment.


    Jesus saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
    And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
    And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

    hope_lr_things responds: But Jesus.......he's not even attempting any sense of objectivity.  Investigation, experimentation, gathering and evaluation of data.  Nothing but  just  subjective feelings.  

    We appreciate Peter's passion, but that is an extraordinary claim, which requires  extraordinary proof, such as peer reviewed published articles of  experiments,  intensive examination of sources and historical records, chemical analysis of the water which "changed" into wine,  etc etc. 

    Witnesses?  Well you now how unreliable they can be.

    There are sources which tell us he learned magic while in Egypt, that his actual  father was actually a Roman soldier, a deserter.  Were you actually born in Bethlehem?  We do not see any records to confirm this;   I expect that it will actually do great harm.

    Perhaps in a hundred years the scientists and theologians  can give some sort of  tenative conclusion.


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  4. 4 hours ago, Physics Guy said:

    Nerve cells didn't evolve the ability to communicate when physically isolated. They evolved the ability to affect each other with electric fields.

    Affecting each other with electric fields is what nerve cells naturally do when they're connected in the brain. 

    So this whole  thing about a "new" way of communication is just a nothing burger.  Rubbing a  balloon.

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    And sadly, I don't know that anyone else in the immediate line of succession has any indication of being this kind of leader. 

    The Lord will prepare and choose the individual best fitted to do the work that is required at that time.

    Not "sadly", but Hallelujah!

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  6. Another insane model from cdowis == "tiny evolution"   (thank you Trump for suggesting the name).

    I introduced his model way back sometime in the past where the evolution has been proven as scientific fact -- nothing shocking there -- but I injected a small wrinkle.  The factual evolution model has a tiny problem ==>>

    It can explain TINY issues but gets beat up on the BIG ones.  It can carry very small loads as a motoped, such as packages, letters, small stuff but give it a load that requires a sixteen wheel tractor trailer??  In my previous introduction to this model, I gave a few specific examples.  A new model is necessary to carry train loads.

    Recent research into neuroscience has now introduced a tractor trailer problem beyond any hope for tiny evolution ==>>  wireless almost psychic  communication by the brain



    What they found was that slow periodic activity can generate electric fields which in turn activate neighbouring cells, constituting a form of neural communication without chemical synaptic transmission or gap junctions.

    "We've known about these waves for a long time, but no one knows their exact function and no one believed they could spontaneously propagate," Durand says.

    "I've been studying the hippocampus, itself just one small part of the brain, for 40 years and it keeps surprising me."

    This neural activity can actually be modulated - strengthened or blocked - by applying weak electrical fields and could be an analogue form of another cell communication method, called ephaptic coupling.

    The team's most radical finding was that these electrical fields can activate neurons through a complete gap in severed brain tissue, when the two pieces remain in close physical proximity.




  7. On 2/17/2019 at 7:51 PM, Rajah Manchou said:

    I have gone. It is just as easy to go southward as it would be to go northward.

    Nothing personal, but this is a stunning admission that  you are unfamiliar with the text of the Book of Mormon -- the geopolitics, the very basics such as the relationship of the  Lamanites vs the Nephites, the geographic location of the Lamanites, etc. 
    And you speak with such certainty  of your ignorance of such "minor" details that we have no common ground for a discussion..


  8. On 2/12/2019 at 1:36 AM, Rajah Manchou said:

    It's hard to identify any place on the American continent that fits this description.

    Have you actually gone to mesoamerica and traveled around, or are you simply looking at a map.  You cannot go southward -- the Lamanites, you know.

    Image result for book mormon geography path analysis

  9. On 2/13/2019 at 6:51 PM, bluebell said:

    It looks more like a typing error than a spelling error, but I agree that it would have been nice if their spell check had caught it.  Was that the only spelling error in the piece?  

    Someone compaing abt your Spelling erors??
    I am vurious if she knows how to spell "anal_retentive"

  10. I feel the rule against  politics somewhat restraining, since our religion gives a unique view of political issues.  It is difficult to know where to draw the line.  
    Religion and politics are very intertwined and provide interesting topics for discussion.  Give us a separate room.

    Finally I personally dislike the restrictions on new members posting new threads -- to prevent trolling. 
    Hells bells, let them come in and do their best, within limits, of course.

    Let's create a youtube channel and have videos on some our discussions and invite viewers to continue the discussion.  Invite guest such as Jeff Durben (no ExMomons, please).

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  11. UPDATE 1/23/2019




    More than a year after a faith-based student group sued the University of Iowa for stripping its campus affiliation based on controversial leadership requirements, the two sides are set to face off next week in U.S. District Court over sticking points in advance of a jury trial in March.

    The case involving Business Leaders in Christ — a student group known as BLinC, founded in the Tippie College of Business in 2014 — prompted an expansive university review of its student organizations; deregistration of dozens more groups; and a second lawsuit against the UI over how it handled a faith-based group.

    The student groups — represented by the high-profile Becket Fund for Religious Liberty from Washington, D. C.— have attracted the eye of the U.S. Justice Department, which recently filed court documents asserting its opinion that the UI violated the Constitution by deregistering faith-based groups.

    “The exclusion of religious viewpoints from colleges and universities risks the suppression of free speech and creative inquiry in one of the vital centers for the nation’s intellectual life,” according to the Justice Department statement telling its interest in the case BLinC filed in 2017.

    In advance of a scheduled March 4 jury trial, a judge has invited the two sides next Wednesday to the federal courthouse in Des Moines. BLinC attorneys say they will ask there “for permanent protection from the university’s religious discrimination.”




  12. On 8/10/2018 at 1:16 PM, Okrahomer said:

    ICollege should be about learning and making new connections, not appearing in court, Blomberg said.

    "These students are students. They have better things to do with their time than fight their own administration," he said.

    Actually going to court to defend your rights under the Constitution against the infringement by institutions is not only a learning experience but also an excellent use of their time.

    'Bloomberg the administration has better use of their time than to deny the students their basic rights under the Constitution.  You will also learn that bullies do not always win by trash talking the other side.

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