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2 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

But it is still required to anoint with oil and seal the anointing. 

If you use the Priesthood it is recommended but not required.

I do not believe sisters need it if they have the gift. One of the most dramatic healings I know of was a sister who held her grandchild and just whispered “be healed”. The child who was in excruciating pain immediately drifted to sleep and was fine when woken up later.

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7 minutes ago, cinepro said:

I expected him to finish the story by saying "I told her 'Wendy, don't worry.  Everything will work out in the end.'"

I chuckled.

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52 minutes ago, sunstoned said:

This makes 28 announced that have not started construction.  

Are you sure about that?

Church website shows 29 announced plus 14 under construction and 9 being renovated.  Adding in the 8 that were announced today and your at 60 in line to be dedicated.  

At our current rates, it will take us over 15 years to complete those if we didn’t announce any other temples. 

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8 minutes ago, rockpond said:

Are you sure about that?

Church website shows 29 announced plus 14 under construction and 9 being renovated.  Adding in the 8 that were announced today and your at 60 in line to be dedicated.  

At our current rates, it will take us over 15 years to complete those if we didn’t announce any other temples. 

Do the presidents of the church announce temples to be built at men's sessions, like they did the yw/women's session? I thought those temple announcements were only at the main sessions. 

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I was thinking they may have changed it to break the habit of whooping at the names.

But it may be a time issue.

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1 hour ago, The Nehor said:

If you use the Priesthood it is recommended but not required.

I do not believe sisters need it if they have the gift. One of the most dramatic healings I know of was a sister who held her grandchild and just whispered “be healed”. The child who was in excruciating pain immediately drifted to sleep and was fine when woken up later.

Then there’s this...

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General Guidelines

Only Melchizedek Priesthood holders may administer to the sick or afflicted. Normally two or more priesthood holders administer to the sick, but one may perform both the anointing and the sealing alone if necessary. If consecrated oil is not available, a blessing may nevertheless be given by the authority of the priesthood without the anointing.
A father who holds the Melchizedek Priesthood normally should administer to sick members of his family.

 

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1 hour ago, JLHPROF said:

Nothing.  But that's not what a Mother's Blessing refers to.

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General Guidelines
....A father who holds the Melchizedek Priesthood normally should administer to sick members of his family.

 

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6 hours ago, rockpond said:

Are you sure about that?

Church website shows 29 announced plus 14 under construction and 9 being renovated.  Adding in the 8 that were announced today and your at 60 in line to be dedicated.  

At our current rates, it will take us over 15 years to complete those if we didn’t announce any other temples. 

I'm no longer sure.  Here is what wiki says:

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There are 166 dedicated temples (157 currently open; and 9 previously dedicated, but closed for renovation), 14 under construction, and 37 announced (not yet under construction), for a total of 217. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_(LDS_Church)

 

 

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6 hours ago, Tacenda said:

Do the presidents of the church announce temples to be built at men's sessions, like they did the yw/women's session? I thought those temple announcements were only at the main sessions. 

I can’t recall temples ever being announced in the Priesthood session.  And, IIRC, they used to be announced in Saturday sessions.  I think it was Pres. Nelson who moved it to the end of the Sunday session.  But someone should correct me if my memory is faulty on that. 

Pres. Nelson may have done it just to mix things up... keep people paying attention.  Or maybe there is going to be a change of format in today’s sessions. 

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10 hours ago, Duncan said:

We had a sister missionary here last year from Papua New Guinea, she told us that her and her family walked to Church for two hours there and back, I don't know how they felt about the new 2 hour church but wow,4 hours of walking??? put us to shame for sure!

Interesting! We had a missionary elder from PNG here in Worthing, UK, this year.  I'd guess they are trying to train new leadership for PNG by sending missionaries out throughout the world.

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5 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

Then there’s this...

 

It nevertheless remains that a prayer of faith by a man or a woman, a member or a non-member, can bring about healings. Priesthood holders within the Church don't have an exclusive monopoly on miraculous healings. But, that we Priesthood holders *can* give blessings is a good thing. The question is why can/should we when healings can occur without any Priesthood?

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50 minutes ago, Stargazer said:

Interesting! We had a missionary elder from PNG here in Worthing, UK, this year.  I'd guess they are trying to train new leadership for PNG by sending missionaries out throughout the world.

Yeah! she was telling us about her life back home and it's a different way of doing things for sure!

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16 hours ago, juliann said:

I’m a bit shocked over Pres Oaks’ mocking woman with a concern about having to live with her husband’s first wife in heaven. The audience joined in with laughter. Not his best moment. 

Thanks for your post. I have seen similar post all over social media. I think that no matter what President Oaks says someone will take offense. It’s just the way it seems to be now. I haven’t looked but I am sure he is not the only person to speak at conference about this topic. I also don’t believe that when he was writing this talk his intention was to mock or make fun of this women like so many believe. I find it very sad that this is the go to whenever he speaks, that his intent is to hurt, mock, or belittle people. Again this is my opinion. I hope you enjoy the rest of your conference weekend.

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33 minutes ago, Nacho2dope said:

 I also don’t believe that when he was writing this talk his intention was to mock or make fun of this women like so many believe. I find it very sad that this is the go to whenever he speaks, that his intent is to hurt, mock, or belittle people. Again this is my opinion. I hope you enjoy the rest of your conference weekend.

Of course he didn’t intend to. But he did and did it on a very tender topic for many women. Denying or spinning it is part of the greater problem we have as church members. It isolates those it wounds. We badly need to move away from the idea that male leaders can never have a bad day. 

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2 hours ago, sunstoned said:

I'm no longer sure.  Here is what wiki says:

 

Here's this (list):

https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/construction/

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Construction Status

14 Under Construction   •   9 Under Renovation   •   37 Announced

 

 

It's interesting there are now 4 temples that have been announced for the Philippines that have not announced a ground breaking yet.  There is 1 that is under constructions now, making that 5 new temples for them (the Urdaneta Philippines Temple is under construction).

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21 minutes ago, ALarson said:

Here's this (list):

https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/construction/

 

It's interesting there are now 4 temples that have been announced for the Philippines that have not announced a ground breaking yet.  There is 1 that is under constructions now, making that 5 new temples for them (the Urdaneta Philippines Temple is under construction).

I can't imagine working in the Temple Dept. right now, I recall Pres. Monson was around them not announcing new Temples to get the backlog underway but now it's back on again I guess! they must have hired a ton of new people to work through all this

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17 hours ago, Peacefully said:

Was he trying to make a joke or did the audience just take it that way? It really hit me wrong as I am sealed to a man who is also sealed to his first wife. 

It wasn't mocking concern over the "spectre" of eternal polygamy.  There are those who are deeply concerned.

I think the joke was over those who were worrying about the housing assignments in eternity.  Angels on the head of a pin kind of stuff.

Let's worry about getting there first and figure out who gets which home later.

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12 hours ago, MustardSeed said:

What has you most excited? 

While there weren't any new Truths discussed over the session, there were some Truths that we so often neglect/space that were said very firmly last night.  We (and that includes me) needed to hear them.   Things like the importance self worth, divine heritage, and a women's power as a disciple of Christ.  For a specific example: I'm an LDS Christian lady married to a supportive generic Christian dude.  It has always been True that there is God's power/pressence and priesthood in my home, even if my husband is not a priesthood bearer.  We do not lack.  And I have said this for years to many people who don't see that.  To have the Lord's prophet declare it from the General Conference podium was... incredible.  

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9 hours ago, cinepro said:

I expected him to finish the story by saying "I told her 'Wendy, don't worry.  Everything will work out in the end.'"

And you know that is highly plausible conversation between an Apostle and a second wife.

1 hour ago, Nacho2dope said:

Thanks for your post. I have seen similar post all over social media. I think that no matter what President Oaks says someone will take offense. It’s just the way it seems to be now. I haven’t looked but I am sure he is not the only person to speak at conference about this topic. I also don’t believe that when he was writing this talk his intention was to mock or make fun of this women like so many believe. I find it very sad that this is the go to whenever he speaks, that his intent is to hurt, mock, or belittle people. Again this is my opinion. I hope you enjoy the rest of your conference weekend.

I noticed on another forum were repeated posts disparaging President Oaks. So I watched the talk. 

I did not see any evidence that he invited laughter or that he was making light of genuine and sensitive question.

I did however hear many in the audience react uninvited.

Yes, President Oaks could have stopped speaking to chastise OR he could "groan in the spirit" (John 11:33) and continue teaching truths; to me he continued to teach truths.

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44 minutes ago, juliann said:

Of course he didn’t intend to. But he did and did it on a very tender topic for many women. Denying or spinning it is part of the greater problem we have as church members. It isolates those it wounds. We badly need to move away from the idea that male leaders can never have a bad day. 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Have a great Sunday!!

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15 minutes ago, JLHPROF said:

It wasn't mocking concern over the "spectre" of eternal polygamy.  There are those who are deeply concerned.

I think the joke was over those who were worrying about the housing assignments in eternity.  Angels on the head of a pin kind of stuff.

Let's worry about getting there first and figure out who gets which home later.

I do think there was a "joke" at all. 

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37 minutes ago, juliann said:

Of course he didn’t intend to. But he did and did it on a very tender topic for many women. Denying or spinning it is part of the greater problem we have as church members. It isolates those it wounds. We badly need to move away from the idea that male leaders can never have a bad day. 

I’d invite you to consider that the point He was making (and did make a moment later), was that we’re often focused on things we won’t know the answer to unless and until we’re exalted, and that our focus is best placed on what we need to do to be exalted.  

My expectation is that if my mind or heart requires any condition on exaltation, rather than an unconditional trust in, and submission to, God’s will, I’m best served by removing that requirement from my mind and heart lest it block my exaltation.  And I count it a blessing, not an insult, to be reminded of that fact.

We can either inquire “what lack I yet” or be reminded of it without asking...either way I suggest we choose best when we heed the counsel rather than choose to be offended or disappointed.

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2 hours ago, Nofear said:

It nevertheless remains that a prayer of faith by a man or a woman, a member or a non-member, can bring about healings. Priesthood holders within the Church don't have an exclusive monopoly on miraculous healings. But, that we Priesthood holders *can* give blessings is a good thing. The question is why can/should we when healings can occur without any Priesthood?

Because it is the established order and ordinance of the Priesthood. 

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