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18 minutes ago, Calm said:

Guessing the newer mad max film?

Ha!  Just searched it and I am right. Recognized the actor. Looked at his credits. 

Just saw a sequence from the film on YouTube.  How exciting!  I think I won't be watching the full film.

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On 8/10/2019 at 5:35 PM, Vance said:

I have NEVER heard anyone complain about being dead. 

 

Just sayin.

Being dead isn't so bad it's dying that's a real pain

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18 hours ago, Stargazer said:

No, they are not, but Postum is intended as a coffee substitute.  And it tastes just as bad, in my humble opinion.

I like it, but it's very overpriced. Haven't had it in ages. Used to drink it when at my grandparents when they and my uncles were drinking coffee. I'm much more of a hot chocolate connoisseur these days.

18 hours ago, Stargazer said:

Now, you can get vanilla flavor that contains no alcohol, although in these cases it will be artificially produced flavoring, with vanillin originating from petrochemicals. At least in these days -- artificial vanillin used to be made from wood processing waste products, including creosote.  Yum!

Changes in paper making and wood pulp mean it's not used for vanillin much these days. Some still is, but as you noted now it's made from petrochemicals. There's also a type of vanillin made from rice bran that's becoming more popular and can be designated in ingredients as "natural flavors." The FDA has somewhat arbitrary rules about what a natural flavor is - often and perhaps typically their inclusion in food has little to do with flavor and most to do with acting as a preservative or in some cases a sweetner. Speaking generally and not just about vanillin. 

Personally I hate vanillin and avoid it like the plague. The best way to get vanilla into a dish (IMO) is to simply add vanilla beans. Although they are expensive - particularly the Tahitian beans which can cost $1000 for a tiny box.

 

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1 hour ago, clarkgoble said:

I like it, but it's very overpriced. Haven't had it in ages. Used to drink it when at my grandparents when they and my uncles were drinking coffee. I'm much more of a hot chocolate connoisseur these days.

I think we have some in the cupboard. Maybe I should try it again to see if it is as bad as I thought it was.  We do have Pero, which to me is tolerable, at least.

1 hour ago, clarkgoble said:

Changes in paper making and wood pulp mean it's not used for vanillin much these days. Some still is, but as you noted now it's made from petrochemicals. There's also a type of vanillin made from rice bran that's becoming more popular and can be designated in ingredients as "natural flavors." The FDA has somewhat arbitrary rules about what a natural flavor is - often and perhaps typically their inclusion in food has little to do with flavor and most to do with acting as a preservative or in some cases a sweetner. Speaking generally and not just about vanillin. 

You find the same arbitrary rules here in Europe.

1 hour ago, clarkgoble said:

Personally I hate vanillin and avoid it like the plague. The best way to get vanilla into a dish (IMO) is to simply add vanilla beans. Although they are expensive - particularly the Tahitian beans which can cost $1000 for a tiny box.

 

Fortunately, I don't find myself in need of vanilla in the things I cook. They tend to be savory rather than sweet.

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Teecino is an excellent coffee substitute! My wife thinks it tastes identical, or as close as you can get, to coffee. You can even do all the same “fun drinks” with it as coffee! I love the stuff!

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On 8/17/2019 at 4:11 PM, SettingDogStar said:

Teecino is an excellent coffee substitute! My wife thinks it tastes identical, or as close as you can get, to coffee. You can even do all the same “fun drinks” with it as coffee! I love the stuff!

Chicory?

That used to be the cheap add-in to coffee to be avoided.  Of course it has been 40 years since I gave up a serious coffee habit and have not had a single cup since then.  I like postum though.

So have they done something in the last 40 years to beef up chicory?  ;)

https://www.thespruceeats.com/what-is-chicory-766431

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The best substitute is my cocoa recipe, colloquially known as a diabetes shake.

Take whole milk and put the desired quantity into a cocomotion cocoa machine. Add white chocolate cocoa powder liberally. Put in a scoop and a half of Blue Bell French Vanilla ice cream. Add caramel sause or topping......liberally. Before the caramel can settle turn on the cocomotion and let it heat and swirl. Once it is done and had a chance to cool put in glass.

Warning: Drink slowly! It is incredibly sweet. Do not drink immediately before trying to sleep. Do not eat anything else that day. It has your calorie count covered.

Proviso: Not responsible for results. Consult your witch doctor before use.

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On 8/18/2019 at 8:07 PM, mfbukowski said:

Chicory?

That used to be the cheap add-in to coffee to be avoided.  Of course it has been 40 years since I gave up a serious coffee habit and have not had a single cup since then.  I like postum though.

So have they done something in the last 40 years to beef up chicory?  ;)

https://www.thespruceeats.com/what-is-chicory-766431

Never had Chicory before, ill have to try it though! Teecino is essentially, for all intents and purposes, an herbal tea that tastes almost identical to coffee. You still brew it in a coffee machine, but I think you could steep it if you wanted. Course I can’t drink it black so I wash it out with creamer, so maybe it doesn’t taste identical. 

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1 hour ago, SettingDogStar said:

Never had Chicory before, ill have to try it though! Teecino is essentially, for all intents and purposes, an herbal tea that tastes almost identical to coffee. You still brew it in a coffee machine, but I think you could steep it if you wanted. Course I can’t drink it black so I wash it out with creamer, so maybe it doesn’t taste identical. 

If I got it right, Teecino IS chicory.

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