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Another interesting edition of the Book of Mormon

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Several years ago, when I was browsing at a local used bookstore, I came across a leather-bound, red-letter edition of the Book of Mormon. It was less than ten bucks, so I immediately bought it. And then I don't think I looked at it for quite some time. When I finally picked it up again, I noticed that the chapter/verse numbering system was the RLDS system, but the book wasn't published by the RLDS. Rather, this one was published by The Church of Jesus Christ in Monongahela, PA. It's the fourth edition of their version (2001), and it's considerably better done than the RLDS's "Revised Authorized Version." The type is a comfortable size for reading, there are cross-references at the bottom of each page (both to other BoM passages and Bible verses), and there is a pretty decent index in the back of the book. Overall, it's a nice little find.

I will post a few pictures later...

Does anyone else have a copy of this Book of Mormon edition? Would love to hear your thoughts.

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Spine of the edition, showing the publisher

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Title page, showing publisher and publication date

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Here's a look at the average page, with cross-references at the bottom

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Finally, a look at the Index.

Meanwhile, I did a pretty extensive search online, to see if this version is available anywhere, and it doesn't look like anyone is selling it. Amazon had a copy of the 2nd ed. for over a hundred dollars! I found my receipt stuck in my copy, and it looks like a only paid $6, so my money was well spent, I guess.

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It looks like a Bickertonite Book of Mormon.

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Yes, it is definitely the Bickertonite edition (the denomination in which rock star Alice Cooper grew up, incidentally).

I think I read somewhere that they don't care for the term "Bickertonite." In much the same way that current usage in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints avoids the term "Mormon" as a designation for members of the Church.

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I think I read somewhere that they don't care for the term "Bickertonite." In much the same way that current usage in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints avoids the term "Mormon" as a designation for members of the Church.

Wouldn’t be surprised if it was actually dislike as opposed to just not using the term. Will try and remember that in the future.

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12 hours ago, caspianrex said:

Yes, it is definitely the Bickertonite edition (the denomination in which rock star Alice Cooper grew up, incidentally).

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Yes, Alice Cooper (Vincent Furnier) was raised in the Church of Jesus Christ.  His grandfather was their Church President for a number of years.   This is the Church of Jesus Christ (HQ Monongahela, PA), which had a black Apostle in the 1920's and disfellowsipped people for racism.  Daniel P. Stone, “The Rocky Road to Prophethood: William Bickerton’s Emergence as an American Prophet,” Journal of Mormon History 43/1 (January 2017): 1-29.

That Church sees itself as founded by Sidney Rigdon, whom they regard as Joseph Smith's true successor.  William Bickerton was a follower of Sidney Rigdon.

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On 7/10/2019 at 9:12 PM, Robert F. Smith said:

Yes, Alice Cooper (Vincent Furnier) was raised in the Church of Jesus Christ.  His grandfather was their Church President for a number of years.   This is the Church of Jesus Christ (HQ Monongahela, PA), which had a black Apostle in the 1920's and disfellowsipped people for racism.  Daniel P. Stone, “The Rocky Road to Prophethood: William Bickerton’s Emergence as an American Prophet,” Journal of Mormon History 43/1 (January 2017): 1-29.

That Church sees itself as founded by Sidney Rigdon, whom they regard as Joseph Smith's true successor.  William Bickerton was a follower of Sidney Rigdon.

Well, don’t confuse the website of The Church of the Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org

with the website of the Bickertonite sect: http://www.thechurchofjesuschrist.org  the word “the” is the operative.

Just like you’ve confused the geography of The Book of Mormon proclaimed by Oliver Cowdery in his Letter VII as a “fact” the final battles of the Jaredites and Nephites were at the Hill Cumorah in New York: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/90

..with the geography of The Book of Mormon proclaimed by the RLDS Church as being in Central America and the Hill Cumorah in southern Mexico: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89058377359;view=2up;seq=58;skin=mobile

http://www.hceti.org/ current CofC members Hill Cumorah expeditions to Mexico.

There’s no reason to be a big Dummy like those Utah members at Book of Mormon Central headquartered in Springville, Utah County, Utah, you know “Jack” Welch & Kirk Magleby the owners of this private enterprise, Brant Gardner, employee and the younger crowd deceived by their “Elders” for a paycheck.   https://bookofmormoncentral.orgStaff%20Photo.jpg

Then there’s Dr. Daniel Peterson, who with Jack Welch in 1978-1979 founded F.A.R.M.S. to promote the RLDS Book of Mormon geography and sell newsletters promoting the same and begging for donations for “further research” as most University Professors do.

This is why Book of Mormon Central above, and Dr. Daniel Peterson of  The InterpreterFoundation https://interpreterfoundation.org/ created them as 501(c)(3) Charitable Corporations to get tax-deductible donations received by them as non-taxed because UTAH has a higher population sample of members to deceive with a RLDS Book of Mormon geography theory.

Scroll to the bottom of both sites and see their “Begging PayPal Buttons” because Oliver Cowdery was an “Speculator” on the location of the Hill Cumorah being in New York.

https://knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/knowhy/how-are-oliver-cowderys-messenger-and-advocate-letters-to-be-understood-and-used

It is therefore more appropriate that, rather than seeing Oliver’s views on the topic of Book of Mormon geography as being authoritative, prophetic pronouncements, they should be seen as reflections of, if not the main cause behind, popular nineteenth-century Mormon speculation on Book of Mormon geography.”

https://knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/knowhy/how-are-oliver-cowderys-messenger-and-advocate-letters-to-be-understood-and-used

You see, Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery, and the early members of the Church, many who sacrificed their lives and are your and my ancestors, were “speculators” because this little sect of a band of brothers and sisters in Utah County, Utah have adopted the RLDS Book of Mormon Two-Cumorah geography theory.

But the rest of us are also idiots and speculators along with Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery and the early members of the Church, if we don’t believe them.

Ha ha ha!

(At least the Bickertonites stick to their beliefs.)

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26 minutes ago, Burnside said:

Well, don’t confuse the website of The Church of the Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org

with the website of the Bickertonite sect: http://www.thechurchofjesuschrist.org  the word “the” is the operative.

Just like you’ve confused the geography of The Book of Mormon proclaimed by Oliver Cowdery in his Letter VII as a “fact” the final battles of the Jaredites and Nephites were at the Hill Cumorah in New York: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/90

..with the geography of The Book of Mormon proclaimed by the RLDS Church as being in Central America and the Hill Cumorah in southern Mexico: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89058377359;view=2up;seq=58;skin=mobile

http://www.hceti.org/ current CofC members Hill Cumorah expeditions to Mexico.

There’s no reason to be a big Dummy like those Utah members at Book of Mormon Central headquartered in Springville, Utah County, Utah, you know “Jack” Welch & Kirk Magleby the owners of this private enterprise, Brant Gardner, employee and the younger crowd deceived by their “Elders” for a paycheck.   https://bookofmormoncentral.orgStaff%20Photo.jpg

Then there’s Dr. Daniel Peterson, who with Jack Welch in 1978-1979 founded F.A.R.M.S. to promote the RLDS Book of Mormon geography and sell newsletters promoting the same and begging for donations for “further research” as most University Professors do.

This is why Book of Mormon Central above, and Dr. Daniel Peterson of  The InterpreterFoundation https://interpreterfoundation.org/ created them as 501(c)(3) Charitable Corporations to get tax-deductible donations received by them as non-taxed because UTAH has a higher population sample of members to deceive with a RLDS Book of Mormon geography theory.

Scroll to the bottom of both sites and see their “Begging PayPal Buttons” because Oliver Cowdery was an “Speculator” on the location of the Hill Cumorah being in New York.

https://knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/knowhy/how-are-oliver-cowderys-messenger-and-advocate-letters-to-be-understood-and-used

It is therefore more appropriate that, rather than seeing Oliver’s views on the topic of Book of Mormon geography as being authoritative, prophetic pronouncements, they should be seen as reflections of, if not the main cause behind, popular nineteenth-century Mormon speculation on Book of Mormon geography.”

https://knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/knowhy/how-are-oliver-cowderys-messenger-and-advocate-letters-to-be-understood-and-used

You see, Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery, and the early members of the Church, many who sacrificed their lives and are your and my ancestors, were “speculators” because this little sect of a band of brothers and sisters in Utah County, Utah have adopted the RLDS Book of Mormon Two-Cumorah geography theory.

But the rest of us are also idiots and speculators along with Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery and the early members of the Church, if we don’t believe them.

Ha ha ha!

(At least the Bickertonites stick to their beliefs.)

Will someone please ban this monomaniacal soporific dullard?

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7 hours ago, Burnside said:

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Then there’s Dr. Daniel Peterson, who with Jack Welch in 1978-1979 founded F.A.R.M.S. to promote the RLDS Book of Mormon geography and sell newsletters promoting the same and begging for donations for “further research” as most University Professors do.

This is why Book of Mormon Central above, and Dr. Daniel Peterson of  The InterpreterFoundation https://interpreterfoundation.org/ created them as 501(c)(3) Charitable Corporations to get tax-deductible donations received by them as non-taxed because UTAH has a higher population sample of members to deceive with a RLDS Book of Mormon geography theory...............................

Still lying as is your wont, Sideburns.  Jack Welch founded FARMS in California, and Dan Peterson was not part of it at that time. 

Do you have any ethical or moral boundaries, or is lying just your diabolical intent through and through?

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7 hours ago, The Nehor said:

Will someone please ban this monomaniacal soporific dullard?

While he is indeed soporific, the word you should have used was sophomoric.

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1).   If you think someone is behaving badly, report him or her.  Mods probably won't stumble upon the post on our own; we aren't on here that often and when we are, we usually go look at the reports, not read through the threads.  Posting "I hope this idiot gets banned" is not going to accomplish anything.

2).  If someone is behaving badly, don't think that gives you license to do the same and the Mods won't care because they did it first.  Rather than suspend the offending poster now I get to lock the entire thread.  Next time I'm going to hand out suspensions to everyone.

3).  @Burnside knock off the insults, follow the board guidelines, or you'll be banned.

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