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Just a few honest questions about the LDS Church and abortions.
If a member of the LDS Church has an abortion, where does the spirit or soul of the aborted child go? Does the aborted child float somewhere up there until they've been sealed? Can the aborted child be sealed? What if the parent or parents of the aborted child try to hide the abortion? Can they get a Temple Recommend while concealing the abortion and still be sealed while trying to hide the abortion? If those with knowledge of the abortion and haven't disclosed their absolute 'fact of knowledge' and they proceed to obtain a Temple Recommend, are they allowed to participate in various Church and Temple functions? If they've failed to disclose knowledge of the abortion, is everything they've done in the Temple after obtaining a Temple Recommend and performed Temple ceremonies null and void and without effect?
What about those in Church (Stake Leaders, Bishops, and others in the local Ward, members, etc.) who are aware of this who've failed to disclose knowledge of an abortion? Can they be penalized for not reporting this, including Family Patriarchs who have active knowledge of their own childrens' participation in abortions?
I realize that these may seem to be loaded questions, but to this day in late 2017, the Elders and Sisters have been unable to answer these questions thus far. Their general answers are that, "Well, everyone is a sinner, everyone makes mistakes, all can be forgiven, and... pray to Heavenly Father about it and He will lead you to the answer", but they then refer me to the articles provided by Church leadership which don't answer any of these questions. Personally, I know of one person on planet earth who deserves to know that he or she has an aborted half brother or half sister somewhere out there.
This is not a knock on the Church, nor am I trying to be antagonistic, but I'd like other's views about the LDS Church and the topic of abortion.
By Five Solas
The LDS Church has been loud in its opposition to legalized same sex marriage - perhaps most famously (infamously?) in its support for "Proposition 8" in California a few years back. They've had company, of course. Plenty of Evangelicals, Catholics, and other Christians have endeavored to hold the line for "traditional marriage."
But while LDS have been loud & clear on the same sex marriage issue--they're relatively-speaking quiet on the question of legalized abortion where the mother's health is not in question (what I'm calling for purposes of this thread, "convenience abortion"). This is not to say LDS are in favor of abortion (they aren't)--but they clearly haven't shown the same political interest/energy in the matter of legalized convenience abortion. And certainly not in comparison to Evangelicals and Catholics.
Why is that?
Compare and contrast:
1) The LDS Officer wanting a non-ceremonial assignment for the SLC Gay Parade being put on probation.
2) A bakery being sued because they refused to bake a cake for a "gay wedding".
3) A Hobby shop suing for the right to deny funding for medical procedures/products they feel are not moral.
4) A Muslim man refusing to handle pork at his cash register suing Costco because he was reassigned to gather shopping carts.
Tuesday, February 24, 2015
NEW YORK (WABC) -- A man is suing Costco for religious discrimination.
He tells Eyewitness News exclusively that when he refused to work with pork, the major retailer sent him outside to gather carts...
Is it even possible to be consistent in the application of civil liberties, freedom of association, and religious rights across this diverse yet similar set of issues?
For your consideration:
Found myself largely in agreement with the trailer so I am now watching the full documentary. The first statements in the trailer by Phyllis Schafly mirrors the latest recent statements (Conference/Newsroom?) about people erroneously seeing the LDS priesthood in terms of a conflict between men and women.
The goal of Planned Parenthood et. al. in getting children to experiment sexually in order to fuel the abortion business was accurately reflected as are the overall effects of modern feminism in society. I suspect that if it were produced by people with an LDS background it would be slightly tempered but little changed overall.
This has been out since 2007 so it's a wonder I had not heard of it till now. Seems likely to be a valuable tool for explaining Christian/LDS values in the subject.