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3 hours ago, SouthernMo said:

That’s awesome. Glad you’re having good experiences. 

I've also often thought that a lot of future prophecy is more a road map requiring conditional faith and action to fulfill, and not so much a prediction. Even D&C 87 could have taken a few alternate twists and turns to realize.

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49 minutes ago, let’s roll said:

Your recent posts have demonstrated to me that your self-professed “quite limited” understanding goes far beyond the implications of soviet communism.  

You ask for examples of prophecy, then demean the prophecy deeming it as nothing more than a simple plan completely under the Church’s control (despite the fact the plan included preaching in lands closed to Americans and their churches, with a missionary force from lands the Church either wasn’t  in or in which it had few members).  And then further demean the prophecy by saying the Church simply executed on its commonplace plan (like your plan to graduate college) without providing any example of a comparable plan executed by a church of comparable size in the same time period.

Inexplicably, in your next post you further demean the prophecy by saying global events outside of the Church’s control opened doors for the expansion of missionary work.  Isn’t that part of the prophetic nature of what President Kimball said?  Isn’t it extraordinary and prophetic to announce that the Church will preach the Gospel in lands closed to the Church (especially if, in fact, opening those countries to missionary work was, as you believe, outside the control of the Church).

But, of course, opening those countries was not beyond the control of God.  And when God shared His plan with His prophet and told him to tell the Church that “the time is now,” the Prophet did so and the Church responded.  I invite you to look at the percentage increase in the missionary force in the two years after the prophecy was given and God opened countries to those missionaries.

Btw, I’d suggest that the idea that a single cigarette never hurt anyone is just wrongheaded since anyone includes people who have promised God not to smoke and breaking promises made to God always hurts the offender.

Buddy - please reread my message to which you are replying.

I know a lot of people here stand firm in their views and won’t adjust.  I’m genuinely in agreement with you that the prophecy of missionary work moving to lands that in the 70’s (and 80’s?) would have had no indication  of opening is indicative of god’s influence. I’m putting your example in my record of what I see as genuine prophesies that have come to pass.

Now - If President Nelson we’re to prophesy that a mission in Kanab, Utah would be opened, I’d be less inclined to count that one as a legitimate example of him “predicting” something would happen outside of his control.

Agree with you about those who covenant not to smoke. But the context of that statement was as it relates to health only. Covenants are a different matter.

Lastly - no need to insult my intelligence or limited knowledge of subjects. Doesn’t do much good at all.

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2 hours ago, SouthernMo said:

Buddy - please reread my message to which you are replying.

I know a lot of people here stand firm in their views and won’t adjust.  I’m genuinely in agreement with you that the prophecy of missionary work moving to lands that in the 70’s (and 80’s?) would have had no indication  of opening is indicative of god’s influence. I’m putting your example in my record of what I see as genuine prophesies that have come to pass.

Now - If President Nelson we’re to prophesy that a mission in Kanab, Utah would be opened, I’d be less inclined to count that one as a legitimate example of him “predicting” something would happen outside of his control.

Agree with you about those who covenant not to smoke. But the context of that statement was as it relates to health only. Covenants are a different matter.

Lastly - no need to insult my intelligence or limited knowledge of subjects. Doesn’t do much good at all.

You equated the prophecy with your graduating college and said it didn’t “resonate as special” to you.  Apparently you’ve changed your mind.  Kudos.

Btw, I didn’t insult your intelligence, I commented on your lack of understanding.  There’s no shame in not understanding something.  My impression of your posts overall is that you have an open mind and are willing to listen to, ask questions about, acknowledge the strengths and point out the weakness in, others views as you perceive them.   I think those are all laudable traits.

Godspeed to you.

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9 hours ago, let’s roll said:

You equated the prophecy with your graduating college and said it didn’t “resonate as special” to you.  Apparently you’ve changed your mind.

Yes - I love when people here give me perspective and information that changes my mind. It’s the main reason I come here is to find that.

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We talking specific lunch prophecies or any miraculous evidence?

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5 minutes ago, Avatar4321 said:

We talking specific lunch prophecies or any miraculous evidence?

I’m most curious about events that a latter day prophet clearly foretold and came to be.

Less interested in great guidance that a prophet gave. 

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On 4/14/2019 at 1:14 PM, SouthernMo said:

I’m most curious about events that a latter day prophet clearly foretold and came to be.

Less interested in great guidance that a prophet gave. 

Perhaps you would be interested in the Cardston Temple vision. I can't post a link but you can Google it. I added the link. it's not a prophecy by the Church but it's about the Church and the wise moves by it's leaders as instructed.

https://www.reliefmine.com/articles/prophecy/93-the-cardston-temple-vision-world-war-iii

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On 4/12/2019 at 10:34 PM, mrmarklin said:

Water to wine,

If this natural, please point me to the scientific laws that explain how it happens 😊 

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6 minutes ago, MiserereNobis said:

If this natural, please point me to the scientific laws that explain how it happens 😊 

Maybe something like this:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2018/03/09/carbon-nanotube-membrane-breakthrough-is-real-world-star-trek-replicator-mattershift/#7618634a520f

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10 hours ago, rodheadlee said:

Perhaps you would be interested in the Cardston Temple vision. I can't post a link but you can Google it. I added the link. it's not a prophecy by the Church but it's about the Church and the wise moves by it's leaders as instructed.

https://www.reliefmine.com/articles/prophecy/93-the-cardston-temple-vision-world-war-iii

So if I understand this correctly, this link shares a vision had by a woman about an event that hasn’t happened (yet?) in which leaders of the LDS church made good decisions?

You take this as a testimony-building experience that shows you that LDS prophets/leaders are guided by god?

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