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1 hour ago, flameburns623 said:

Lol. 

Crom is loosely based on Odin. But he's a purely fictional deity. 

OTOH, there are several fictional deities being worshipped with varying degrees of seriousness.  Pastafarianism for example.  Church of All Worlds, also. 

Too bad, no Crom. You almost had me ready to join up.

“To crush your enemies, to see them flee before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.” Word.

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“If you are focused on what you believe, not what you do, you are thinking like a Christian. If you want to be a better Pagan, stop worrying about what you or anyone else believes, but get to work and practice your variety of Paganism. Mostly you need to invoke and get to know your Gods. Then you will know, and not need to believe”

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6 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

Too bad, no Crom. You almost had me ready to join up.

“To crush your enemies, to see them flee before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.” Word.

"Crom, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, or why we died. All that matters is that two stood against many. That's what's important! Valor pleases you, Crom... so grant me one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then the HELL with you!"

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9 hours ago, flameburns623 said:

Lol. 

Crom is loosely based on Odin. But he's a purely fictional deity.

“The name Crom is probably derived from the ancient Celtic deity Crom Cruach or Crom Dubh”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crom_(fictional_deity)

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8 hours ago, flameburns623 said:

"Crom, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, or why we died. All that matters is that two stood against many. That's what's important! Valor pleases you, Crom... so grant me one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then the HELL with you!"

“I have known many gods. He who denies them is as blind as he who trusts them too deeply. I seek not beyond death. It may be the blackness averred by the Nemedian skeptics, or Crom's realm of ice and cloud, or the snowy plains and vaulted halls of the Nordheimer's Valhalla. I know not, nor do I care. Let me live deep while I live; let me know the rich juices of red meat and stinging wine on my palate, the hot embrace of white arms, the mad exultation of battle when the blue blades flame and crimson, and I am content. Let teachers and philosophers brood over questions of reality and illusion. I know this: if life is illusion, then I am no less an illusion, and being thus, the illusion is real to me. I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and am content.”

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3 hours ago, Bernard Gui said:

“I have known many gods. He who denies them is as blind as he who trusts them too deeply. I seek not beyond death. It may be the blackness averred by the Nemedian skeptics, or Crom's realm of ice and cloud, or the snowy plains and vaulted halls of the Nordheimer's Valhalla. I know not, nor do I care. Let me live deep while I live; let me know the rich juices of red meat and stinging wine on my palate, the hot embrace of white arms, the mad exultation of battle when the blue blades flame and crimson, and I am content. Let teachers and philosophers brood over questions of reality and illusion. I know this: if life is illusion, then I am no less an illusion, and being thus, the illusion is real to me. I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and am content.”

There is something gratifying about deifying our id.

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16 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

There is something gratifying about deifying our id.

Depends on the id of the gratifier.

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On 1/3/2019 at 7:41 AM, phaedrus ut said:

We had very conservative families in our last ward that home schooled their kids and constantly railed against Harry Potter and science education on public schools.  

Well, as a dad in a very conservative family that homeschooled our kids, lemme just say that I've met a few of those people, and we don't tend to be friends with 'em.  

Homeschooling is fun.  We probably met over a hundred different hs families, and 80% are regular folks.  That remaining 20% though, could be some pretty whacked out fringey weirdoes.  I figure public schooled families have like a 90/10 split, with that last 10% not being as extreme.

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19 hours ago, LoudmouthMormon said:

Well, as a dad in a very conservative family that homeschooled our kids, lemme just say that I've met a few of those people, and we don't tend to be friends with 'em.  

Homeschooling is fun.  We probably met over a hundred different hs families, and 80% are regular folks.  That remaining 20% though, could be some pretty whacked out fringey weirdoes.  I figure public schooled families have like a 90/10 split, with that last 10% not being as extreme.

I recently had someone explain to me the hardest part for them going to a public university after being home schooled was understanding it was ok to disagree.  Having been raised and taught everything by his parents the concept of dissent was foreign to him and something he had to learn.  He told me he basically wrote a checklist of all his beliefs and questioned them all to try to make sure he only retained those he had personally chosen.  

The changes he made had his parents convinced he was being brain washed when really it was the opposite.  

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22 hours ago, LoudmouthMormon said:

A big chunk of public schooling is trying to get everyone's graphic equalizers set similarly, so they'll fit into whatever program they're in, and be ready for whatever is coming next.  That's the plan any way.  With my kids, one of them passed my abilities in math in 3rd grade, but can't spell her way out of a paper bag.  The other kid published her first 3500 word fanfiction at age 11, but sucks at math.  One experiments with weird hair color, the other doesn't even want pierced ears.  When homeschooled kids move into a more structured cookie-cutter-type situation, they can struggle a bit because of culture clash.

That sounds like an amazingly positive environment.  Did you have any specific methods to teach social skills and socialization that may have missed in a large school environment? 

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My secret method was to marry my wife, because she gets all this stuff. :)  She is street wise and has amazing abilities to read people - their posture, tone of voice, body language, facial expression.  So she has just always known when to go wading into a bunch of bikers and ask the biggest one if her daughter can sit on his motorcycle, and when to ditch lunch and leave the Burger King because she spotted rival gang colors and apparently there was something about to go down.   One daughter around age 10 taught a class to a bunch of high schoolers on how to knit.  Both daughters took their turns running the petting zoo at the local community parade thing for a couple of years. Helping adults to understand why turkeys gobble and whatnot.

Our kids went to various homeschool co-ops.  A secular one, two religious ones.  And took advantage of a handful of homeschool outreach programs by various school districts.  Colorado is very HS friendly.  Daughters are teens now, they're both currently in a hybrid online high school program that has them in a public school with teachers 4 days a week.

There are absolutely differences in how we socialize, than the "average" family with "average" kids in a public school.  And one of our kids takes after me as a borderline reclusive introvert, while the other one enjoys social situations a lot more.  

Homeschooling is not for everyone.  Folks concerned about their kids fitting in, might find themselves struggling.  Our goal is to help create capable, moral, intelligent, able adults, and release them into the world where they make a positive impact on their friends/family/community.  We don't much care if anyone goes to prom.

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On 1/9/2019 at 5:49 PM, phaedrus ut said:

That sounds like an amazingly positive environment.  Did you have any specific methods to teach social skills and socialization that may have missed in a large school environment? 

I'm not him, but I can make an observation about a family I home taught for several years.  They had 7 kids, and all but the oldest were homeschooled from beginning to end.  The parents seemed to me to be a little bit on the controlling side, but they didn't raise a bunch of weirdoes who had to come to terms with sociality after growing up.  I think that, to a degree, a large family teaches socialization intrinsically, that is, if the parents know what they are doing.  This family had their kids going out on service projects, visiting elderly neighbors, helping neighbor families with spring cleanup, and so on.  They were extraordinarily successful, in my opinion, in raising independent and capable adults.  Three of them are now physicians, one an RN, and I am not sure about the other two, but one of them may be a lawyer.  Their youngest is the only one who I think is exclusively a stay-at-home mom, but even she has a degree from BYU.

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