MustardSeed Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 My friend, who struggles in life, has found respite in the spoken words of Mike Strouds podcast on the Fullness of the Atonement. I listened for a bit but was uncomfortable with it so looked into the speaker and discovered that in 2017 he’d been reprimanded by the church. I can’t tell if the podcast I heard was originally released before his reprimand or what but I wondered where stroud landed? I don’t want my friend following some rogue whackado without knowing it. 1 Link to comment
Tacenda Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 This tells you everything you need to know! http://www.nofearpreps.com/video--audio-links.html Link to comment
mfbukowski Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=47011 Quote Mike Stroud Reeled in by the church Quote 2017 Nov 08, 3:58 pm https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/mstr ... 2_55-08_00 Mike Stroud has been counseled and talked to by the church, has admitted a list of inappropriate teachings, and will willfully submit to the church. He will cease his podcasts and take them off the internet. The link is his last podcast, all of which will be taken down in a few days. Edited November 24, 2018 by mfbukowski Link to comment
MustardSeed Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 5 hours ago, mfbukowski said: https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=47011 This is what I’m trying to figure out. His podcast Is available. Cant tell if he made it available again after taking it down or if this is all new stuff since being condemned. Link to comment
smac97 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 5 hours ago, mfbukowski said: https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=47011 I am glad that Bro. Stroud has made this choice. I may not have been easy. Thanks, -Smac 1 Link to comment
Calm Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) He is apparently selling at cost his older podcasts since this is dated as published in Feb 2017, so it looks to me he has changed his mind: https://www.amazon.com/Highly-Favored-Lord-Stroud-Podcasts/dp/1541010183 It is possible that it is the person listed as a fellow author, Mechelle McDermott iirc, from what someone said in a Reddit forum, but she must have his approval whether spoken or silence, imo, as he being the podcast person could stop it if he wanted to. Otoh, he was simply asked apparently, not threatened with discipline, so perhaps he thinks it is not imperative to remove them from the public and feels McDermott has the right to them for helping him in some fashion (not sure what she did, fellow podcaster perhaps?). She is the one who put the older podcasts on nofearpreps according to Reddit. She is apparently prominent in the prepper movement, speaks at their conferences, etc. Edited November 24, 2018 by Calm Link to comment
MustardSeed Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) My concern was this... my friend appears to be a fan, and she has found comfort in his words. I’d hate to burst her bubble and say that it’s been denounced if by chance his new stuff is legit. Maybe it’s not new after all. I figured maybe someone here would know of him. I think I’ll just let her know he was reprimanded a year ago And that Ballard referred to his stuff from the pulpit in GC and let my friend sort out the rest. I listened and it turned me off immediately but I guess my friend had a very different experience. I know I have a low tolerance for paid ministry. Edited November 24, 2018 by MustardSeed Link to comment
MustardSeed Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 Thanks guys Link to comment
Calm Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 It looks like his old stuff, but put up by another person, but I am checking with some friends who sometimes have studied the prepper movement. 1 Link to comment
cinepro Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 13 hours ago, MustardSeed said: I don’t want my friend following some rogue whackado without knowing it. Just tell your friend to trust the Spirit. 2 Link to comment
MustardSeed Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 6 hours ago, cinepro said: Just tell your friend to trust the Spirit. Problem is she loves what he has to say. I went to TOFW once and apparently was the only one in the room not feeling the spirit. I really doubt it’s due to anything other than a room full of people influenced by high emotion and book sales and me not getting excited by the hype. The spirit is felt in mysterious ways I guess. I recall the same thing happening at girls camp for my daughter and me. A hysterical camp director called girls to the stage to participate in a dramatic exercise. My daughter looked across at me with horror and I just shrugged. Telling folks to follow the spirit sometimes can backfire- I just stuck with facts and turns out my friend actually listened up. 3 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 7 hours ago, cinepro said: Just tell your friend to trust the Spirit. Dangerous advice for many who make false gods in their own image and imagine the confirmation of the Spirit is the same thing as them liking something. 1 Link to comment
Robert F. Smith Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Michelle "Shelle" McDermott's prophetic timeline on that same website includes plagues, missionaries called home, the assassination of the president, a Utah Earthquake, the anti-Christ coming to power, World War III, America invaded, a comet hitting the Earth, along with accepting some views of apostate Bishop John Koyle, etc. cimprint@live.com , nofearpreps.com . 1 Link to comment
Popular Post rchorse Posted November 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2018 As someone who at one point was interested in this kind of stuff, I think the ultimate appeal of the global catastrophe, etc is that it's much easier to stockpile food, guns and ammo than to love your neighbor. Guns are fun and food is delicious, but my neighbor can be kind of a jerk sometimes. If everyone will be dead in a few months or years, why should I get to know them or love them or share the gospel? It's too much work. 10 Link to comment
ShannaC Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I haven't heard many good things about Mike stroud lately. He is seeking the spotlight more and more with new podcasts. I highly recommend this letter that was sent to his leadership in January 2019 https://www.facebook.com/2192820574108082/posts/2242375009152638/ Link to comment
bsjkki Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 My sisters listen to Mike Stroud. I’ve never listened to him. I’ve had this same question. Link to comment
bluebell Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, rodheadlee said: What is TOFW? Time Out For Women. It’s put on by Deseret Book. Link to comment
Tacenda Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, bluebell said: Time Out For Women. It’s put on by Deseret Book. Oh no! My friend is big into TOFW. Link to comment
Rain Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Tacenda said: Oh no! My friend is big into TOFW. TOFW is fine. It is not for everyone, but the one I went to was good. Yep, there was some emotional stuff, but no more than I have seen anywhere else. If you remember one of the missions of the Spirit - to confirm truth then it is no wonder that many women, and men, feel the Spirit there, as the speakers talk about the atonement, repentance, service, fulfilling our callings etc. It also has some beautiful music even if that kind of music isn't liked by some. Edited February 5, 2019 by Rain 1 Link to comment
Tacenda Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Rain said: TOFW is fine. It is not for everyone, but the one I went to was good. Yep, there was some emotional stuff, but no more than I have seen anywhere else. If you remember one of the missions of the Spirit - to confirm truth then it is no wonder that many women, and men, feel the Spirit there, as the speakers talk about the atonement, repentance, service, fulfilling our callings etc. It also has some beautiful music even if that kind of music isn't limited by some. I'm just worried she listened to anything to do with Mike Stroud. My friend is extremely goal oriented to a fault sometimes. She puts so much stress on herself when it comes to the church and taking care of so many people, despite some real health challenges. To give you an example, she would lug tons of items for an exercise class every day of the week at the church until I begged her to ask someone in her ward to let her use a closet to put the equipment in. She did this for the women in her ward for 2 years. She has severe restless leg syndrome and sometimes at night she'll walk her dog to get some relief, not safe at all. She is always in a demanding calling, from Primary president, to Young Women's president (camp and all) to Relief Society teacher to now Activity Days leader. She hopefully isn't having to sit through instruction on the end of days prep work or anything. Thanks for the reassurance! She went to the last one, and the years before. This year she took her daughter and daughter-in-law and they stayed in a hotel the night of and had a blast. Edited February 5, 2019 by Tacenda Link to comment
bluebell Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Tacenda said: Oh no! My friend is big into TOFW. I like them too. Sheri Dew is speaking at the Layton one this year. 1 Link to comment
Rain Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Tacenda said: I'm just worried she listened to anything to do with Mike Stroud. My friend is extremely goal oriented to a fault sometimes. She puts so much stress on herself when it comes to the church and taking care of so many people, despite some real health challenges. To give you an example, she would lug tons of items for an exercise class every day of the week at the church until I begged her to ask someone in her ward to let her use a closet to put the equipment in. She did this for the women in her ward for 2 years. She has severe restless leg syndrome and sometimes at night she'll walk her dog to get some relief, not safe at all. She is always in a demanding calling, from Primary president, to Young Women's president (camp and all) to Relief Society teacher to now Activity Days leader. She hopefully isn't having to sit through instruction on the end of days prep work or anything. Thanks for the reassurance! She went to the last one, and the years before. This year she took her daughter and daughter-in-law and they stayed in a hotel the night of and had a blast. I doubt you will find him at TOFW. Not really the subject they look for even if there were not the problems discussed on this thread. The only reason TOFW was brought up in this thread was because someone said to listen to the Spirit and mustard said that some people feel the Spirit at TOFW and she doesn't get it. Nothing about Mike Stroud being there. Edited February 5, 2019 by Rain 1 Link to comment
bluebell Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, Rain said: I doubt you will find him at TOFW. Not really the subject they look for even if there were not the problems discussed on this thread. The only reason TOFW was brought up in this thread was because someone said to listen to the Spirit and mustard said that some people feel the Spirit at TOFW and she doesn't get it. Nothing about Mike Stroud being there. With speakers who talk about the Atonement, or the temple, etc. I don't understand why anyone would wonder why some people would feel the spirit at TOFW. 2 Link to comment
Rain Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, bluebell said: With speakers who talk about the Atonement, or the temple, etc. I don't understand why anyone would wonder why some people would feel the spirit at TOFW. I know some people have a problem with people getting paid to speak because they feel it is priestcraft, but the BoM says that priestcraft is teaching false doctrine for riches and honor. So if they are humbly teaching true principles and doctrine with a modest amount earned it isn't priestcraft. 1 Link to comment
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