bsjkki Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 3 hours ago, gopher said: There may be some truth in that at least according to a member of the ward who has a son that left for Brazil last week. She says Brazil requires missionaries to have extensive training beyond just the few weeks in the MTC before they can work in the country. The church claims the four years of seminary fulfills that requirement. Anyone heard anything similar? Yes, that was explained at seminary kick-off. It is also true it helps with admissions to church schools. Link to comment
nuclearfuels Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) On 11/15/2018 at 12:10 AM, strappinglad said: I attended release time seminary for 4 years. I learned( before correlation) about most everything that the CES letter fusses over. MMM, Joseph's wives etc. Very little about church history was a surprise. In my opinion, vaccinations need to be early and often. It seems to me that the new changes in the 2 hour block etc. are a way to urge us all into more " home study " , I hope we will take the challenge but at the same time I am fearful of the results in a decade. I have seen the results of academic home schooling when it was done correctly and when it was done very poorly. Just read the CES Letter myself. Had a lot of stuff I didn't know before but no, my testimony wasn't shaken. The tricky part: introducing all of those topics on Sundays in 2019 or in FHE... Discussing topics such as: Chart about wives of Joseph, Brigham, Warren Jeffs. No mention of Solomon's 700 wives and 300 concubines. David, Jacob, Moses, etc. etc. Certain claims made about not only my faith but Judaism, Christianity and the Bible in general; if the claim is all of these are wrong, so be it but the evidence I read didn't support that. The admission that "absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence," then claiming the opposite. Stating how cultures operated in the 1800's, then pointing out Joseph, the Whitmer's, etc. in general demonstrated some of those common traits - this doesn't really phase me just confuses me as the implication is: Prophets, before and after their callings, should behave in a manner totally different/opposite of the culture they live in (monks or something?) Ignoring the Central American native people who literally built buildings on top of the ruins of former cities (sometimes up to 7 times); the fact that all archaeology in Central and Northern America has not been completed yet) The problem with reading from a few websites and thinking the reader is then an expert in archaeology, Egyptology, DNA, science, etc. The Creation: the earth was not created ex nihilo or out of nothing. “In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it” (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 349). “Now, the word create came from the word baurau which does not mean to create out of nothing; it means to organize; the same as a man would organize materials and build a ship. Hence, we infer that God had materials to organize the world out of chaos—chaotic matter, which is element, and in which dwells all the glory. Element had an existence from the time he had. The pure principles of element are principles which can never be destroyed; they may be organized and re-organized, but not destroyed. They had no beginning, and can have no end” (Smith, Teachings, 350–52)." https://www.lds.org/manual/doctrines-of-the-gospel-student-manual/7-creation?lang=eng DNA "The Cherokees tested had high levels of DNA test markers associated with the Berbers, native Egyptians, Turks, Lebanese, Hebrews and Mesopotamians. Genetically, they are more Jewish than the typical American Jew of European ancestry. So-called “full-blooded” Cherokees had high levels of European DNA and a trace of Asiatic (Native American) DNA. 80 Some “card-carrying” Cherokees had almost no Asiatic DNA. The European DNA contained a much higher level of DNA test markers associated with the Iberian Peninsula that was typical of Caucasian Americans. The level of haplogroup T in the Cherokee (26.9%) approximated the percentage for Egypt (25%), one of the only lands where T attains a major position among the various mitochondrial lineages. The lab claims that their skin color and facial features are primarily Semitic in origin, not Native American (https://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/cherokee-dna.htm ) " Edited November 19, 2018 by nuclearfuels 1 Link to comment
nuclearfuels Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/13/2018 at 12:39 AM, The Nehor said: Looks like the success rate of seminary is disturbingly low: https://www.theonion.com/study-finds-only-20-of-seminary-graduates-go-on-to-bec-1830390689 I would never normally question the Nehor but I fear this study might be part of the replication crisis (or replicability crisis or reproducibility crisis). http://download.lardlad.com/sounds/season15/juvie12.mp3 Link to comment
nuclearfuels Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/13/2018 at 9:07 AM, MustardSeed said: Well we may as well make a discussion out of it. I would be a happy mom if seminary were cancelled. Seminary was created in Utah where release time was the norm. The rest of the country deals with limited sleep issues. Last year my son got 2 hours of sleep several times a week. If there was no seminary he could have doubled his sleep. Next semester he will have to do zero hour seminary. Folks, my teen aged son will be sitting in a class at 5 am. OUr stake used to offer online seminary- maybe yours could? Also, the predominantly foreign-language speaking branch in our ward has home study seminary, where they meet on Sundays but study at hoem the rest of hte week Link to comment
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