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On one of Book of Mormon Central’s (BMC) website it states:
“We hope our efforts help all of the religious organizations within the Restoration Movement who cherish the Book of Mormon.” https://bookofmormoncentral.org/content/donation-instructions [bold added]
What is the Restoration Movement and the religious organizations within it?
On the Hill Cumorah Expedition Team web site, it states:
“The Book of Mormon is many things to many people. To some, it is the main
purpose for the founding of a church in early 19th century America. To the
Restoration movement and all of the many factions, the Book of Mormon is the
scripture that distinguishes it from other Christian faiths.
https://www.hillcumorahexpeditionteam.com/WhatisBofMormon.html [bold added]
What is the Hill Cumorah Expedition Team?
“During the summer of 2001 several members of the Buckner Congregation of
the Community of Christ traveled to Mexico to visit ancient ruins. They were
excited to have Neil Steede as a guide and travel companion. Several sites
were visited including Palenque, Cacaxtla, Cuicuilco, Comalcalco, Cholula, and
Teotihuacan. While traveling the group took a detour and went to see Cerro
Rabon, a mountain near Jalapa de Diaz that many Book of Mormon
archaeologists have reason to believe is the Hill Cumorah where ancient
records are buried.”
Ah! This answers the question of the “religious organizations or the many factions within the Restoration Movement which cherish The Book of Mormon.”
They would include:
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS)
The Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (RLDS)
The Community of Christ which is the new name for the RLDS Church (CofC)
Restoration Branches - RLDS congregations which broke off of the RLDS Church over women given the priesthood (now that sounds familiar!) , etc: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restoration_branches
Do you know of others?
(Now you know one of the reasons why Pres. Nelson has asked us to refer to the complete name of the Church.)
But why is Jack Welch co-founder of BMC wanting to help all of these religious organizations within the “Restoration Movement” which cherish The Book of Mormon?
Because Jack Welch and BMC is perpetuating a fraud, a Book of Mormon geography fraud.
This is why a CofC Congregation in Missouri has expeditions to Central America looking for the Hill Cumorah:
https://www.hillcumorahexpeditionteam.com/ or http://hceti.org/
Here is a book published by a member of the then RLDS Church, now CofC, Louise E. Hills, “New Light on American Archeology,” 1924, Independence, MO, Page 131.
This is a contrived, false, fraud and a hoax created by the RLDS Chruch of a Two-Cumorah Book of Mormon geography theory NOW BEING promoted by members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who own and work for:
Book of Mormon Central
The Interpreter Foundation
..and others who promote the theory which places Book of Mormon geography strictly within Mesoamerica and ignore President Oliver Cowdery who wrote that it was a fact that the final Jaredite and Nephite battles occurred near the Hill Cumorah in New York. https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/90
Maybe you believe there are Two Hill Cumorahs, the original one in Central America somewhere. Why don’t you join this CofC Congregation which believes the same and help them discover the Hill Cumorah in Central America. As RLDS Louise E Hills wrote, Page 131:
1 am aware that Moroni wrote that he made his
synopsis of the Jaredite history "from the twenty and
four plates," but at what time he did this I do not know.
It may have been done before his father's death, to be
in preparation for the Lord's purpose that such
"account" of the Jaredites should be known in our time.
At least Oliver Cowdery's statement of the contents of
the box, namely, that it contained a "sketch" of the two
peoples seems to make it plain that Moroni did not place
the original Jaredite record in the New York hilL I
have no objection to that hill being also called Cumorah,
with the understanding that the ancient hill Cumorah
is still undiscovered, and that sometime its secrets will
be revealed and come to the knowledge of God's people.
Join the expedition! 😏😄😄
I enjoy reading Catholic thought and I wanted to share. I believe the call for SSM and many other criticisms of the CoJCoLDS (primarily from those who still hold to some sense of its being “true”) is a product of lack of rigorous thought. An emotionalism where we substitute how we feel about things for sound principles derived by seeking God with faith and reason.
First two links:
Article by Archbishop of Philadelphia:
Faith and Reason by JPII:
I will admit that I have only read parts of Faith and Reason, but I hope to rectify this.
I think the Catholic Church is in crisis partially because its highest leaders have left behind sound thinking on issues for a hoped pastoral love of all. This is from First Things:
More poignantly from an interview with Bishop Chaput:
It is my opinion that there are many very concerning things coming for the Pope and the leadership around him. I fear he has forgotten (and I think it likely that many around him have forgotten) the second half of: “Truth without love is imperious self-righteousness. Love without truth is cowardly self-indulgence.” With an organization so committed to preserving the “truth once delivered,” how (with or without God’s supernatural guidance) can such a thing happen. How can it happen to the CoJCoLDS?
Somebody who wrestles with issues like advocating for or against SSM will become a general authority (not me). In my personal life, I feel the desire to embrace love without the restraining influence of truth. In the name of love sometime not just self love, I can stray from God’s path. As my attempt at my best self online, I feel the desire to embrace love without mentioning truth to those with whom I dialogue even though I do not face the same issues they do (I like to not speak of their sin or emphasize that I too am a sinner to eliminate or soften the truth). How much tougher will this be for the future bishop who can clearly see the pain in those he loves and knows that speaking truth to them will make him a lone voice in a world that has ceased to care about truth.
There are two things about the difficult and recent declaration concerning children of same sex couples. First, is that it would be somewhat cruel to ask a child to explain the reason his/her parents have embraced a way of living out of alignment with God’s teaching. The second is having not been cruel, those who likely believe that SSM is a wonderful institution that has blessed their lives will continue to grow and learn and progress in the church.
As I said in a recent thread, I think it quite possible that one day our church will embrace SSM in many and perhaps all ways. IMO today this would be the love without truth result. If this happens in the future, it will not be the end of the church, but too much of this love without truth could be (I have faith that God is in control and can steer away from this). But, one of the ways God steers away from this is by calling us to THINK correctly.
I believe that wrong thinking after Vatican II has lead to the place where the Catholic Church is today and while some of the things Pope Francis is doing may briefly increase the number of folks in the pews, I believe ultimately it will further water down truth and lead to more indifference to the things of God.
I do not think the highest leaders of the CoJCoLDS have succumbed to the thinking Pope Francis has embraced. And I believe that the highest leaders of the CoJCoLDS receive revelation and inspiration to guide God’s church. That being said, I have little doubt that Bishops and Stake Presidents struggle with these issues. Without a commitment to have both TRUTH and LOVE, I think errors can happen. As these error permeate the church AND society, there may be one day when our God (who I think is pragmatic) will recognize that it does more harm than good to continue to teach the truth in certain ways. Someday, the pain caused by the truth and the prevalence of societies tolerant arms willing to offer an ultimately cold loveless embrace, could make it better for the church to water down the gospel in certain areas (no more United Order comes to mind). Alternatively, if the gospel understanding of these issues is correct and discussion and dialogue helps folks to find ways to love in truth, perhaps pragmatic solution will not be required.
Anyway, there is great value in learning from wise folks like JPII and Arch Bishop Chaput. I believe God is in charge. I believe the CoJCoLDS passed through its first 200 years in a way far more remarkable than the years 33-233AD were for New Testament Christians and evidence God’s continuing inspiration and revelation for the whole body of the church. That being said, God’s hand is occasionally the wise and intelligent council of our brothers and sisters. The society into which President Nelson held his first press conference is hostile to God’s truths. I believe that the church is guided by God through President Nelson, but ALL of us imbibe inappropriately of the ideas evidenced in this press conference hostility (in the name of love or in the name of self-indulgence or in the name of …but we imbibe). May right reasoning and truth from God provide a counter force to societies pull!
P.S. In case it is somehow veiled by what I say above, I do not think I am superior in my thinking to all others. I offer the above because it is what seems true to me. If it didn’t seem true to me, my best self, would find something else to embrace that I think is true. I desire to align my beliefs with what God believes to be true!
This also means I want to read and discuss thoughts about the above.
Heaven & Earth
Mormonism and the Challenges of Science, Revelation and Faith
February 22nd - 23rd, 2018
Classroom Building, Room 511
Utah Valley University
click here for a pdf version of the program
The relationship between science and religion has been among the most fiercely debated issues since the Copernican revolution displaced traditional wisdom regarding the nature of the cosmos. Some have argued for a sharp division of labor while others have sought to harmonize spiritual and empirical truths. From its beginnings, Mormonism has wrestled with the implications of modern science and has produced a variety of theological responses. This conference will explore the landscape of Mormon thought as it relates to the relationships between science, theology, scriptural narratives, and LDS authoritative discourse. It will also examine abiding questions of faith, reason, and doubt and the reactions against the intellectualizing forces that bear on the truth claims of Mormonism.
Assistant Professor of History
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
author of Apostles of Reason: The Crisis of Authority in American Evangelicalism Eugene England Lecture
Steven L. Peck
Associate Professor of Biology
Brigham Young University
author of Science the Key to Theology Conference Participants
Philip L. Barlow
Leonard J. Arrington Chair in Mormon Studies & Culture
Utah State University
author of Mormons and the Bible: The Place of Latter-day Saints in American Religion
Brian D. Birch
Brian D. Birch, Director, Religious Studies Program
Utah Valley University
series co-editor, Perspectives on Mormon Theology
Online Professor of Bible and Jewish Studies
Utah State University
author of Reading the Old Testament: Genesis - Deuteronomy
Matthew Bowman, Assistant Professor of Philosophy
Henderson State University
author of The Mormon People: The Making of an American Faith
Deidre Nicole Green
Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship
author of "Becoming Equal Partners: Latter-day Saint Women as Theologians”
Jamie L. Jensen
Associate Professor of Biology, Brigham Young University, author of “Influencing highly religious undergraduate perceptions of evolution: Mormons as a case study”
Boyd Jay Petersen
Program Coordinator for Mormon Studies
Utah Valley University
author of “One Soul Shall Not Be Lost': The War in Heaven in Mormon Thought"
Jana K. Riess
Religion News Service
author of The Next Mormons
David W. Scott
Professor of Communication
Utah Valley University
author of “Dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark?"
History of Christianity & Religions of North America Program
Claremont Graduate University
author of “Truth, Scripture, and Interpretation: Some Precursors to Reading Genesis”
Co-Sponsors & Partners
Religious Studies Program, Utah Valley University College of Humanities & Social Sciences, Utah Valley University
You'll no doubt remember where you were and what you were doing when you first heard about this revolutionary publication and theory:
The Universal Model
Of special interest is how the Universal Model puts Noah's global flood on solid scientific footing:
Already endorsed by some of the best and brightest minds in the earth sciences, insurance and law, the Universal Model will no doubt take the scientific world by storm, and if it doesn't, it can only be because of the atheistic closed-mindedness of the cult of modern science.
Swing for the fences, Rodney. Swing for the fences.
I have made my own book of Mormon map that I would like to get critical feed back for. I can't post images maybe because I'm a newbie of sorts.
In my research I have found the narrow pass mentioned in the Book of Mormon is not between the west sea and the east sea its between the east sea and the sea east.
The narrow neck is between the sea west and the sea east. The land desolation is between the east sea and sea west
But I would like to get constructive criticism of what works and what doesn't. If you see a discrepancy explain the discrepancy with the backing verses.
The link is to my map I will be posting chapters and more research as I go. I have a lot that can be posted.