bluebell Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, JAHS said: I have a feeling this change is in part because of the struggles the elders quorums have in doing home teaching while the High Priests normally see most all their families every month. That's how it is in my ward anyway. That's not how it is in our ward. Link to comment
Bernard Gui Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, The Mean Farmer said: GREAT move When I was made a High Priest I went from 20 years of lackluster meetings and fledgling leadership to a new quorum filled with men who 3/4 of which had served as Bishops, High Councilors, or in Stake Presidencies over the past 15 years. The difference was STARK and I instantly felt bad that the Elders I had left behind, realizing that the most experienced and capable men have been removed from there quorum. This. 👍 Link to comment
Stargazer Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 In my old ward in Washington state, the HP group was very strong, but the EQ wasn't weak -- nevertheless I think this will be a big improvement. In my current ward, in the UK, our HP group is very strong, but the EQ is very weak -- so this will definitely make things much better! I'm looking forward to it! 1 Link to comment
JLHPROF Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Up next...ward High Priests will go the way of ward seventies in the 1980s. All melchizedek priesthood holders at the ward level will be elders. Link to comment
smac97 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, JLHPROF said: Up next...ward High Priests will go the way of ward seventies in the 1980s. All melchizedek priesthood holders at the ward level will be elders. Aren't we already there? 3 Link to comment
bsjkki Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 More men available to serve in Primary! Yay! Especially now that we need more teachers with the new two deep policy. 2 Link to comment
Jeanne Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 i saw all this on my news feed a minute ago..very interesting. It will be different maybe to have Elders in higher positions than High Priests??? But overall I guess this doesn't matter to most. Link to comment
Broker Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 As a bishop, I see this as an opportunity to better share the responsibility of leadership and ministering in our ward. 4 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: Up next...ward High Priests will go the way of ward seventies in the 1980s. All melchizedek priesthood holders at the ward level will be elders. Doubt it. The office of High Priest is too vital for Bishoprics and Stake Presidencies to preside. I think it will be more like Bishops, Patriarchs, and General Authority Seventies who are released. They keep the office but acted like High Priests when not serving. Now they and High Priests will just act as Elder when serving as High Priests. The ward seventies no longer had seventies-specific callings to fill. There are still High Priest callings to fulfill. I do suspect we will see a decrease of Elders getting to 45-50+ and being ordained High Priests so they can go to class with Brethren their own age or to fill out Group Leadership positions so I do suspect we will have fewer High Priests. I was a little surprised they left the option for the Stake President to call High Priests without a required calling. 2 Link to comment
JAHS Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: Up next...ward High Priests will go the way of ward seventies in the 1980s. All melchizedek priesthood holders at the ward level will be elders. I was one of the last 70's ordained in the church at the stake level. Shortly after that we got the news that all stake 70's quorums were to be discontinued. We were sort of given a choice as to whether we wanted to join the High Priests or go into the elder's quorum. I was still very young so I went back to the elders. 1 Link to comment
Popular Post The Nehor Posted April 1, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jeanne said: i saw all this on my news feed a minute ago..very interesting. It will be different maybe to have Elders in higher positions than High Priests??? But overall I guess this doesn't matter to most. As they pointed out it happened before. I think a few people might be miffed but most will be glad. I am already texting other members of the bishopric. We are just excited to have four more Melchizedek Priesthood holders freed up for other callings. We can spare more for Sunday School, Primary, and Young Mens which will be great. I screamed out YES!!! when I heard. Luckily I was not in the chapel. 5 Link to comment
JAHS Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, The Nehor said: I do suspect we will see a decrease of Elders getting to 45-50+ and being ordained High Priests so they can go to class with Brethren their own age or to fill out Group Leadership positions so I do suspect we will have fewer High Priests The way it sounded to is that no one will be made a High Priest anymore simply because of age unless they are going to be in a bishopric, high council, or patriarch. 4 Link to comment
JLHPROF Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, smac97 said: Aren't we already there? The more I observe the closer to standard Christian ministers we move. The usage of the word "ministry" is on the rise. All MP holders will be Elders of the Church. At this rate we'll need another restoration. 3 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 Just now, JAHS said: The way it sounded to is that no one will be made a High Priest anymore simply because of age unless they are going to be in a bishopric, high council, or patriarch. He did specifically leave open the option for others selected by the Stake President which is the current policy. He was almost quoting current Handbook policy on how and when to call a High Priest. It could stay the same but there will be less of a need for High Priests to be ordained just to fill out the Group Leadership or membership. I suspect the number called will vary by stake. Some Stake Presidents will probably go with "only when necessary" and others might ordain seasoned Priesthood holders to the office as directed by the Spirit or recommended by a Bishop. Both styles are completely within their prerogative. Link to comment
The Nehor Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: The more I observe the closer to standard Christian ministers we move. The usage of the word "ministry" is on the rise. All MP holders will be Elders of the Church. At this rate we'll need another restoration. You are welcome to start your own restoration whenever you like. Edited April 1, 2018 by The Nehor 2 Link to comment
Que Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Patriarch is an ordained Melchizedek Priesthood office... I don't believe being a High Priest has ever been a prerequisite to being ordained a Patriarch... 1 Link to comment
Avatar4321 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 hour ago, The Nehor said: My dad is a High Priest Group Leader. I need to congratulate him on his release. All the elders quorum presidencies are being released as well Link to comment
Avatar4321 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 hour ago, jkwilliams said: On the plus side, it will be less noticeable that I’m not there. Or it will free up more people to look for you 1 Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Avatar4321 said: Or it will free up more people to look for you That’s a horrible thought. 1 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Que said: Patriarch is an ordained Melchizedek Priesthood office... I don't believe being a High Priest has ever been a prerequisite to being ordained a Patriarch... It is not a prerequisite but patriarchs previously attended the High Priest Group and were considered part of the High Priest Quorum. Fun Fact: Patriarchs cannot be called to many High Priest positions like Bishop, member of the High Council, or Stake President without special approval from the Apostles even if they are not acting as a Patriarch. Link to comment
The Nehor Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, jkwilliams said: That’s a horrible thought. ONE OF US! ONE OF US! 2 Link to comment
jkwilliams Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Just now, The Nehor said: ONE OF US! ONE OF US! I wonder if we’ll have home teachers now. Link to comment
Avatar4321 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, jkwilliams said: That’s a horrible thought. Not for those or us who pray for your return brother:) 1 Link to comment
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