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Well, I'm all for freedom of speech and differing viewpoints.
But my understanding is that the presiding authority has a responsibility to prevent false doctrine being taught at the pulpit.
I don't think it matters how young or adorable the person teaching the false doctrine happens to be.

And given the identity of the person posting the video all over the internet, that is hardly someone you would want on your side.

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Just now, Gillebre said:

Anyone care to summarize or otherwise relate her message in writing? :)

She's gay and believes God made her that way and loves her.

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4 minutes ago, Gillebre said:

Anyone care to summarize or otherwise relate her message in writing? :)

  1. Hi my name is Savannah, and I want to share my testimony with you.
  2. I believe I am a child of heavenly parents.
  3. I don't know if they talk to us
  4. but I feel in my heart that they made me and that they love me.
  5. I believe I was made the way I am, all parts of me, by my heavenly parents.
  6. They did not mess up when they gave me brown eyes or when I was born bald.
  7. They did not mess up when they gave me freckles or when they made me to be gay.
  8. God loves me just this way, because I believe that he loves all his creations.
  9. I do believe he made me this way on purpose.
  10. No part of me is a mistake.
  11. I do not choose to be this way, and it is not a fad.
  12. I cannot make someone else gay and being around me won't make anyone else this way.
  13. I believe that God wants us to treat each other with kindness, even if people are different.
  14. Especially if they are different.
  15. Christ showed us this.
  16. I believe that we should just love.
  17. I believe I am good.
  18. I try my best to be nice to each other and stick up for those that are hurting.
  19. I know I'm not a horrible sinner for being who I am.
  20. I believe God would tell me if I was wrong.
  21. I hope someday to go on dates, go to school dances, to hold hands, to go off to college.
  22. I hope to find a partner and have a great job.
  23. I hope to get married and have a family.
  24. I know these dreams and wishes are good and right.
  25. I know I can have all of these things as a lesbian and be happy.
  26. I believe that if God is there, he knows I am perfect, just the way I am.
  27. and would never ask me to live my life alone or with someone I am not attracted to.
  28. He would want me to be happy.
  29. I want to be happy.
  30. I want to love myself and not to feel shame for being me.
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I feel bad about her getting the plug pulled, but it sheds light on how some in the church feel about the gay issue. This is already making the rounds in the news. 

If this is the start of what is to become in sharing views like this at the pulpit, I wonder how long F&T meeting will continue. I've seen other videos when someone had the volume turned down but it was about a faith crisis. 

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1 minute ago, Tacenda said:

 

If this is the start of what is to become in sharing views like this at the pulpit, I wonder how long F&TT will continue.

Is fast and testimony meeting a forum for sharing views or for the bearing of testimony?

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Just now, Tacenda said:

Aw, I see no bold. I get it. 

Lines 23 and 27 are probably the most problematic.  Those contradict the most clear and basic positions the Church has taken against those who experience same-sex attraction.

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Just now, cinepro said:

Lines 23 and 27 are probably the most problematic.  Those contradict the most clear and basic positions the Church has taken against those who experience same-sex attraction.

I must have saw the post before the bold I guess, too bad, I thought it clever.

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10 minutes ago, cinepro said:
  1. Hi my name is Savannah, and I want to share my testimony with you.
  2. I believe I am a child of heavenly parents.
  3. I don't know if they talk to us
  4. but I feel in my heart that they made me and that they love me.
  5. I believe I was made the way I am, all parts of me, by my heavenly parents.
  6. They did not mess up when they gave me brown eyes or when I was born bald.
  7. They did not mess up when they gave me freckles or when they made me to be gay.
  8. God loves me just this way, because I believe that he loves all his creations.
  9. I do believe he made me this way on purpose.
  10. No part of me is a mistake.
  11. I do not choose to be this way, and it is not a fad.
  12. I cannot make someone else gay and being around me won't make anyone else this way.
  13. I believe that God wants us to treat each other with kindness, even if people are different.
  14. Especially if they are different.
  15. Christ showed us this.
  16. I believe that we should just love.
  17. I believe I am good.
  18. I try my best to be nice to each other and stick up for those that are hurting.
  19. I know I'm not a horrible sinner for being who I am.
  20. I believe God would tell me if I was wrong.
  21. I hope someday to go on dates, go to school dances, to hold hands, to go off to college.
  22. I hope to find a partner and have a great job.
  23. I hope to get married and have a family.
  24. I know these dreams and wishes are good and right.
  25. I know I can have all of these things as a lesbian and be happy.
  26. I believe that if God is there, he knows I am perfect, just the way I am.
  27. and would never ask me to live my life alone or with someone I am not attracted to.
  28. He would want me to be happy.
  29. I want to be happy.
  30. I want to love myself and not to feel shame for being me.

I wish her the best.

What do you want to discuss?  I assume some church dude in that ward did something mean. Is that what you are getting at?

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22 minutes ago, HappyJackWagon said:

What false doctrine was taught? Can you provide an example or two?

 

 

21 minutes ago, cinepro said:

They did not mess up when they gave me freckles or when they made me to be gay.

I do believe he made me this way on purpose.

I believe God would tell me if I was wrong.

I know I can have all of these things as a lesbian and be happy.

I believe that if God is there, he knows I am perfect, just the way I am.


All of these are questionable at least, and possibly just plain wrong.

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11 minutes ago, HappyJackWagon said:

It's a forum for sharing beliefs & hopes (which this girl did) but only if those hopes and beliefs pass the censorship test.

Fast and Testimony Meeting is a time for members to "bear heartfelt testimonies and to relate faith-promoting experiences." (Handbook 2 18.2.3)

A testimony, according to Elder Bednar is "what we know to be true in our minds and in our hearts by the witness of the Holy Ghost." (More Dilligent and Concerned at Home, October 2009 General Conference, emphasis mine)

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