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This article has hit my facebook feed today.  This version from Lds Living http://www.ldsliving.com/Why-the-Huff-Post-Said-Evangelicals-Should-Take-a-Lesson-from-Mormons/s/83467 and this one from LDS Daily http://www.ldsdaily.com/world/huffington-post-mormons-consciences-put-white-evangelicals-shame/.  They are both quoting from the Huffington Posts article.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mormons-consciences-have-put-white-evangelicals-to_us_5802d33de4b0985f6d15724c

My take is the author is just playing the Mormon vote.  It is in the best interest of a liberal democrat to have Utah vote 3rd party.  His condescension for evangelicals in this article is not something I would ever want to be associated with.  The article is a complete Trump hit piece because anyone who has studied this race would admit there is no moral high ground in this election.  He throws evangelicals under the bus for making a hard decision between two people with obvious character failings.  I'm disappointed with the editorial boards of both websites for associating with such a derogatory hit piece. I see past the propaganda and see Mormons being played...again.  

One question for all.  Is Wikileaks and Project Veritas moral or immoral to expose the behind the scenes corruption in our political system? Isn't that the best way to fight Gadianton Robbers? 

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The best way to fight the Gadianton Robbers is let mother Brittania accept you into her embrace once again, bow the knee to Her Majesty Elizabeth II Dei Gratia Regina, and accept the guiding hand of her representative, Justin Pierre James Trudeau, in these British North American colonies. Then she'll send in the Red Coats and all this talk of Robbers will be a thing of the past. You even get to keep the Red, White and Blue in your flag.

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2 hours ago, bsjkki said:

This article has hit my facebook feed today.  This version from Lds Living http://www.ldsliving.com/Why-the-Huff-Post-Said-Evangelicals-Should-Take-a-Lesson-from-Mormons/s/83467 and this one from LDS Daily http://www.ldsdaily.com/world/huffington-post-mormons-consciences-put-white-evangelicals-shame/.  They are both quoting from the Huffington Posts article.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mormons-consciences-have-put-white-evangelicals-to_us_5802d33de4b0985f6d15724c

My take is the author is just playing the Mormon vote.  It is in the best interest of a liberal democrat to have Utah vote 3rd party.  His condescension for evangelicals in this article is not something I would ever want to be associated with.  The article is a complete Trump hit piece because anyone who has studied this race would admit there is no moral high ground in this election.  He throws evangelicals under the bus for making a hard decision between two people with obvious character failings.  I'm disappointed with the editorial boards of both websites for associating with such a derogatory hit piece. I see past the propaganda and see Mormons being played...again.  

One question for all.  Is Wikileaks and Project Veritas moral or immoral to expose the behind the scenes corruption in our political system? Isn't that the best way to fight Gadianton Robbers? 

If this is such a terrible article why are you sharing it and providing a link so it gets more hits?

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3 minutes ago, ksfisher said:

If this is such a terrible article why are you sharing it and providing a link so it gets more hits?

I thought it was worthy of discussion.  You don't have to agree with me though. That's fine. To discuss it, I have to link to it so it is sourced.

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I didn't think the article was bad. He's a former evangelical who is disappointed with the morality his old religion is supporting. 

It is kind of embarrassing for a group claiming to be the moral voice voting for such an immoral candidate. 

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2 hours ago, halconero said:

The best way to fight the Gadianton Robbers is let mother Brittania accept you into her embrace once again, bow the knee to Her Majesty Elizabeth II Dei Gratia Regina, and accept the guiding hand of her representative, Justin Pierre James Trudeau, in these British North American colonies. Then she'll send in the Red Coats and all this talk of Robbers will be a thing of the past. You even get to keep the Red, White and Blue in your flag.

we'll get rid of Robins' Donuts and embrace Mcdonalds (minus American Coke, it tastes bad) and for the whole Target thing they can give us Golden Corral:D, mmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!

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59 minutes ago, bluebell said:

I didn't think the article was bad. He's a former evangelical who is disappointed with the morality his old religion is supporting. 

It is kind of embarrassing for a group claiming to be the moral voice voting for such an immoral candidate. 

Be wary of liberals bearing alms.

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I think finding what is "moral" this election season is highly subjective.  Is it moral to not vote?  Is it moral to vote 3rd party even if there is no hope of them winning?  Is it moral to vote for the best of the two options running? Is it moral to vote for platform over person? Is it moral to vote for candidates that don't align with the teachings of your faith? Is it moral to vote for a candidate that seeks to undermine ideals your faith teaches? I don't think people would answer the question what is moral the same way. I think evangelicals think it is moral to vote for a candidate that does not embrace abortion. For some, that is their first issue.  The author of the Huffington Post calls them immoral to choose the candidate who will protect the unborn.  Is that a moral position? 

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25 minutes ago, bsjkki said:

I think finding what is "moral" this election season is highly subjective.  Is it moral to not vote?  Is it moral to vote 3rd party even if there is no hope of them winning?  Is it moral to vote for the best of the two options running? Is it moral to vote for platform over person? Is it moral to vote for candidates that don't align with the teachings of your faith? Is it moral to vote for a candidate that seeks to undermine ideals your faith teaches? I don't think people would answer the question what is moral the same way. I think evangelicals think it is moral to vote for a candidate that does not embrace abortion. For some, that is their first issue.  The author of the Huffington Post calls them immoral to choose the candidate who will protect the unborn.  Is that a moral position? 

I don't think moral is that subjective. 

The author calls them immoral for backing an immoral man. Seems pretty simple. 

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11 minutes ago, bluebell said:

I don't think moral is that subjective. 

The author calls them immoral for backing an immoral man. Seems pretty simple. 

I disagree it is that simple. We can agree to disagree :) This election has a lot of nuances to it. I would have accepted his premise more if he was also morally indignant with all Hillary supporters too. She is clearly not a moral choice either. 

 

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13 minutes ago, bsjkki said:

I disagree it is that simple. We can agree to disagree :) This election has a lot of nuances to it. I would have accepted his premise more if he was also morally indignant with all Hillary supporters too. She is clearly not a moral choice either. 

 

I think since he was speaking directly to Evangelicals it makes sense that he didn't talk about Clinton supporters.  The topic of his article was very specific-the Evangelical vote.  I don't know that it makes sense to be upset that he didn't talk about something that wasn't the topic he was speaking about. 

 

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Vote liberal/democrat.  It's the fastest way to bring about the end of all nations and the return of the Savior.

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8 hours ago, JLHPROF said:

Vote liberal/democrat.  It's the fastest way to bring about the end of all nations and the return of the Savior.

JLHPROF, couldn't agree more brother!!!

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10 hours ago, bluebell said:

I don't think moral is that subjective. 

The author calls them immoral for backing an immoral man. Seems pretty simple. 

What is moral when both candidates are immoral?

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2 minutes ago, ERayR said:

What is moral when both candidates are immoral?

Luckily there are more than two candidates. 😁

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41 minutes ago, bluebell said:

Luckily there are more than two candidates. 😁

Evan McMullin?

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1 hour ago, snowflake said:

JLHPROF, couldn't agree more brother!!!

Nah

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26 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

Nah

Yep.

 

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42 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

Evan McMullin?

Or others.  No candidate is perfect but some have definitely lived a more moral life, and espouse a more moral lifestyle, than others.

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42 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

Nah

I remember people saying the same thing when Obama was elected.  

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49 minutes ago, thesometimesaint said:

This is the most pornographic election we've had in American history.

As compared to the "Bubba" Clinton presidency of 1993 thru 2000?

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6 minutes ago, longview said:

As compared to the "Bubba" Clinton presidency of 1993 thru 2000?

Yes.

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3 hours ago, bluebell said:

I remember people saying the same thing when Obama was elected.  

I find this summary of what Obama's accomplished very accurate.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/10/12/what-its-like-to-be-a-college-professor-who-supports-donald-trump/?utm_term=.b8f4e6c19167  The case could be made that we are much closer to "the end." The summary is a few paragraphs in. 

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48 minutes ago, bsjkki said:

I find this summary of what Obama's accomplished very accurate.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/10/12/what-its-like-to-be-a-college-professor-who-supports-donald-trump/?utm_term=.b8f4e6c19167  The case could be made that we are much closer to "the end." The summary is a few paragraphs in. 

And i think the case could equally be made that we aren't.  It really depends on who you ask.  Both sides believe they are the only side that sees the real picture.

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