JAHS Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Some of you have probably noticed that gay couples have started showing up in TV commercials. Stephen Colbert from The Late Show has a pretty funny take on the trend. 1 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Nope, I have not voluntarily watched TV outside of watching shows off Netflix and other streaming services. When visiting parents or others and TV is on I find commercials horribly annoying and can no longer stand them. 3 Link to comment
VideoGameJunkie Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Love should be shown in commercials like this Extra gum commercial. Link to comment
sunstoned Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Nope, I have not voluntarily watched TV outside of watching shows off Netflix and other streaming services. When visiting parents or others and TV is on I find commercials horribly annoying and can no longer stand them.Commercials now take up over a third of the schedule of a T.V. show. I can't stand to watch anything in real time. I record then watch later when I can fast forward past all of the commercials. 2 Link to comment
sunstoned Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Love should be shown in commercials like this Extra gum commercial. This was one of the few good ones! Link to comment
The Nehor Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Commercials should be empowering: Link to comment
JAHS Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Tide To Go | Gay Marriage Ad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn4WhWo11pg Link to comment
carbon dioxide Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 This is why God inspired the invention of the DVR. Link to comment
Popular Post JAHS Posted November 23, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2015 Some may not agree with me on this but watching that soup commercial made me feel sorry for that cute little boy who will never know what it's like to be hugged by his mother. Hugs from my dad were OK but were nothing compared to those I got from my mom. 5 Link to comment
Calm Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I found it rather strange...the guys are arguing about which one of them is the real father...yeah, it is a reference to SW, but it was just a weird twist given it is supposed to be about accepting a two father family. 3 Link to comment
Damien the Leper Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 A family is a family. The desensitizing accusation is ridiculous. Christianity or other monotheistic religions are not the center of attention. This ad is nothing special. People just need to get over themselves. 1 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 A family is a family. The desensitizing accusation is ridiculous. Christianity or other monotheistic religions are not the center of attention. This ad is nothing special. People just need to get over themselves. Yes, the "center of attention" is Norse paganism. All hail Odin! 1 Link to comment
Thinking Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The market system will determine whether we continue to see gay marriage in ads. The main agenda of a company is to make money. If showing ads that promote gay marriage increases the bottom line, the ads will stay. If not, they will fade. Link to comment
The Nehor Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The market system will determine whether we continue to see gay marriage in ads. The main agenda of a company is to make money. If showing ads that promote gay marriage increases the bottom line, the ads will stay. If not, they will fade. So you are saying that free-market capitalists. Fortunately I am a firm supporter of feudalism so this argument means nothing to me. 1 Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) I don't even own a television. I mostly prefer to live actual life rather than watch people paid to pretend to do it for me. Edited November 23, 2015 by Hamba Tuhan 2 Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The market system will determine whether we continue to see gay marriage in ads. The main agenda of a company is to make money. If showing ads that promote gay marriage increases the bottom line, the ads will stay. If not, they will fade. As Michael Medved demonstrated well in Hollywood vs. America, the entertainment complex makes all kinds of ideologically driven choices that don't help their bottom line. I wonder if I should expect this kind of advertising to be any different. 4 Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) A family is a family. The desensitizing accusation is ridiculous. Christianity or other monotheistic religions are not the center of attention. This ad is nothing special. People just need to get over themselves. You don't need to see his identification. These aren't the droids you're looking for. He can go about his business. Move along. Edited November 23, 2015 by Hamba Tuhan 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Bobbieaware Posted November 23, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Some of you have probably noticed that gay couples have started showing up in TV commercials. Stephen Colbert from The Late Show has a pretty funny take on the trend.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5zX3kcwtIcThere is a new and really weird Campbell's Soup commercial where a gay male couple are seen sitting at a table and spoon feeding their son some "Campbell's Star Wars Soup," when one of the men, spoonful of soup in hand, imitates the voice of Darth Vader and says to the little boy, "Cooper, I am your father!" Then with another spoonful of soup in hand, the second man also imitates Darth Vader and says, "No Cooper, I am your father." Now I guess this is supposed to be funny but I'm surprised the writers and producers of this add didn't realize they were depicting a perfect example of how gay parents can mess with an innocent child's mind. It's not bad enough the little boy has no mother (like most of his peers surely do) but to 'keep things fair and equitable' the kid's not even allowed to know who his real father is. The makers of this commercial may think it's cute, but I believe the Lord views it as an outright abomination. Edited November 23, 2015 by Bobbieaware 6 Link to comment
CV75 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 There is a new and really weird Campbell's Soup commercial where a gay male couple are seen sitting at a table and spoon feeding their son some "Campbell's Star Wars Soup," when one of the men, spoonful of soup in hand, imitates the voice of Darth Vader and says to the little boy, "Cooper, I am your father!" Then with another spoonful of soup in hand, the second man also imitates Darth Vader and says, "No Cooper, I am your father." Now I guess this is supposed to be funny but I'm surprised the writers and producers of this add didn't realize they were depicting a perfect example of how gay parents can mess with an innocent child's mind. It's not bad enough the little boy has no mother (like most of his peers surely do) but to 'keep things fair and equitable' the kid's not even allowed to know who his real father is. The makers of this commercial may think it's cute, but I believe the Lord views it as an outright abomination.Children are just becoming props as much i real-life as in the media, and that to serve the selfish needs and interests of the demographic(s) consuming them. "Them" referring to products, media and kids all together! 2 Link to comment
Buckeye Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Children are just becoming props as much i real-life as in the media, and that to serve the selfish needs and interests of the demographic(s) consuming them. "Them" referring to products, media and kids all together! The problem with this point is that our church has used children in its media since, well, forever. E.g., see https://www.lds.org/media-library/images/category/gospel-living?lang=eng It's tough to call children "props" for these commercials, but not do the same for mormon messages. Link to comment
CV75 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) The problem with this point is that our church has used children in its media since, well, forever. E.g., see https://www.lds.org/media-library/images/category/gospel-living?lang=eng It's tough to call children "props" for these commercials, but not do the same for mormon messages. It's easy to call them "props" when that is what is being done for selfish and similar material purposes. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700180194/The-end-of-innocence-The-cost-of-sexualizing-kids.html?pg=all http://www.apa.org/pi/women/programs/girls/report.aspx Edited November 23, 2015 by CV75 1 Link to comment
Buckeye Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 It's easy to call them "props" when that is what is being done for selfish and similar material purposes. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700180194/The-end-of-innocence-The-cost-of-sexualizing-kids.html?pg=all http://www.apa.org/pi/women/programs/girls/report.aspx I'm not sure what you're getting at. Your links go to APA pages addressing the sexualization of girls. That's not the complaint against these ads. No one is claiming these ads sexualize children; the complaint is that the ads normalize gay parenthood. Back to my point. What I was saying is that many organizations, foremost our own church, use images of children and youth in their public messaging. People can disagree about the merits of the underlying messages - e.g., encouraging viewers to buy soup or detergent vs. encouraging viewers to be honest or get to know their mormon neighbors. That's fine. But you can't dispute that the church uses images of children for its purposes just like Madison Avenue. For the record, I don't have a big problem with either use. I do find these specific ads from Campbells (and especially the the Tide) to be a little over the top with the gay issues. These ads seems to push that element of the story too much and come across a pandering rather than informing. I prefer the more subtle culture-based ads such as this interracial ad from Cheerios that show the controversial behavior but do not make it the center of the ad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qkJHgkUzDA Link to comment
rpn Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) If minority families were all shown in proportion to their ratio in the population the commercial is designed for, we'd all be a better society. Not so much when one minority, or the majority is overrepresented. Edited November 23, 2015 by rpn Link to comment
Popular Post BlueDreams Posted November 23, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) I'm not sure how this is all that astounding personally. In almost every show that I watch (I watch a lot of TV....usually while I'm cooking or doing mundane work. I grew up with noise always in the background) there is usually at least one gay/bi character, whether single or in a relationship. Several of these were recurring guests/side characters, but a number are main characters. Maybe it's just about the shows I gravitate to....but I doubt it. Honestly, For their actual population size I do think they have to be the most represented minority group on TV (that may be changing, a lot of my shows also have minority main cast members). And frankly, probably a little over-represented. So I'm not sure why it would be surprising that they're showing up in ads. Some of them feel like pandering.....but that's basically what ads do: pander to sell crap. Personally most people don't pay attention to commercials nowadays. Heaven knows I don't, I watch my "TV" exclusively on my computer through Hulu and Netflix. On Hulu when there's commercials, I mute it, skip it, or go read something. So frankly having something more "catchy" or socially pushy is probably an easy avenue to get attention. Such as the cheerios ad that had a biracial couple and their kid in it. It picked up some racist flack on youtube and then it went viral because of it. Most everybody wouldn't have watched that commercial without the social commentary that happened after the fact. I noticed (you know, when I actually see a stray ad) that there are now more interracial couples post-cheerios ad as well. Commercials: the epitome of selling out.Now off to hulu...It's time for breakfast. French toast and a comedy feels about right. With luv,BD Edited November 23, 2015 by BlueDreams 6 Link to comment
CV75 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I'm not sure what you're getting at.Not sure what happened to the Deseret News link… here it is again:http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700180194/The-end-of-innocence-The-cost-of-sexualizing-kids.html?pg=all But there are others, yes having to do with the sexualization of children in the media:http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700180370/Sexualizing-kids-No-child-left-behind-2-and-fighting-back.html?pg=all http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865567072/Toddlers-and-Tears-The-sexualization-of-young-girls.html?pg=all http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865576115/Victoria7s-Secret-marketing-sexualizes-tween-girls-writers-say.html?pg=all Of course any of this is typically said to only reflect society’s values and ideals, just as normalizing gay parenthood in the media. And it is also said that adults and kids adopt the mores they absorb from the media. One hand washes the other, and kids suffer because of the selfishness of the adults running the show. Whether pandering or informing, there is a merging of market, political and social issues at play at the children’s’ expense, whether it be a joke about two fathers or shaping a sexualized view for children to have of themselves. 1 Link to comment
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