inquiringmind Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Now it came to pass that after Alma had received his message from the angel of the Lord he returned speedily to the land of Ammonihah. And he entered the city by another way, yea, by the way which is on the south of the city of Ammonihah. 19 And as ahe entered the city he was an hungered, and he said to a man: Will ye give to an humble servant of God something to eat? 20 And the man said unto him: I am a Nephite, and I know that thou art a holy prophet of God, for thou art the man whom an aangel said in a vision: Thou shalt receive. Therefore, go with me into my house and I will impart unto thee of my bfood; and I know that thou wilt be a blessing unto me and my house. 21 And it came to pass that the man received him into his house; and the man was called Amulek; and he brought forth bread and meat and set before Alma. 22 And it came to pass that Alma ate bread and was filled; and he ablessed Amulek and his house, and he gave thanks unto God.http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/alma/8.21?lang=eng#20 If Amulek set bread and meat before Alma, why did Alma only eat bread? Was he a vegetarian? Link to comment
Duncan Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 who's to say but bread is very filling I might add, which is why when I am a guest at a dinner I always eat the roll last Link to comment
inquiringmind Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) Was Joseph Smith Jr. a vegetarian nine months out of the year? Edited December 27, 2013 by inquiringmind Link to comment
volgadon Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 You are reading this passage far too rigidly, I think. Look at what Alma does after bread is mentioned the second time- he blesses Amulek, and praises God. Bread was (and where I grew up still is) far more than just food. It symbolises God's gift of food and the earth producing in accordance with God's decrees, among other things, and in later Jewish tradition bread is the essential component of a proper meal. 2 Link to comment
Palerider Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) You are reading this passage far too rigidly, I think. Look at what Alma does after bread is mentioned the second time- he blesses Amulek, and praises God. Bread was (and where I grew up still is) far more than just food. It symbolises God's gift of food and the earth producing in accordance with God's decrees, among other things, and in later Jewish tradition bread is the essential component of a proper meal. I agree. "Give us this day our daily bread". And yet the Savior ate fish and most likely other meats as well........at a minimum, think of the passover meal and what it contained. Edited December 27, 2013 by Palerider 2 Link to comment
Ahab Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I agree. "Give us this day our daily bread". And yet the Savior ate fish and most likely other meats as well........at a minimum, think of the passover meal and what it contained.Also note that he ate fish after he was resurrected, when his body was then in the same condition as the body of Adam and Eve before they fell, and as ours will be after we are resurrected. So if he ate fish, we will also be able to eat fish. Which will delight my wife to no end since right now she doesn't like to eat fish. Link to comment
Ahab Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/alma/8.21?lang=eng#20 If Amulek set bread and meat before Alma, why did Alma only eat bread? Was he a vegetarian?Maybe he just wasn't in the mood for meat then. Or maybe the bread was served with honey butter and he ate a lot of that before he started to try to eat the meat that was served. Or maybe he just didn't like that particular kind of meat. For some people a loaf of fresh bread with honey and butter is enough to satisfy them. 2 Link to comment
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/alma/8.21?lang=eng#20 If Amulek set bread and meat before Alma, why did Alma only eat bread? Was he a vegetarian?My wife always complains oh how I fill up on bread. Link to comment
ERayR Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/alma/8.21?lang=eng#20 If Amulek set bread and meat before Alma, why did Alma only eat bread? Was he a vegetarian? Amulek was out of mustard and Alma didn't like his meat without it so he just ate the bread. Link to comment
ERayR Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Maybe he just wasn't in the mood for meat then. Or maybe the bread was served with honey butter and he ate a lot of that before he started to try to eat the meat that was served. Or maybe he just didn't like that particular kind of meat. For some people a loaf of fresh bread with honey and butter is enough to satisfy them. A loaf of fresh baked bread with honey and butter. Ambrosia - food of the Gods. 1 Link to comment
Calm Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 You are reading this passage far too rigidly, I think. Look at what Alma does after bread is mentioned the second time- he blesses Amulek, and praises God. Bread was (and where I grew up still is) far more than just food. It symbolises God's gift of food and the earth producing in accordance with God's decrees, among other things, and in later Jewish tradition bread is the essential component of a proper meal.The verse of eating the bread, being filled and offering a blessing and praise to God brought to my mind Jesus teaching of how the bread of life would spiritually fill us, the 'last supper' and the sacrament. Perhaps the 'filling' was not of the physical type, perhaps it was even at the opening of the meal...he took a bite of the bread first as a symbolic acceptance of the whole meal and than gave thanks before proceeding with the rest.Chances are he was given something to drink with the bread and meat and that isn't mentioned at all, but that doesn't indicate he didn't drink at all, it just wasn't significant to mention for what the author was trying to portray. Perhaps mentioning meat was important to demonstrate that Amulek was sharing of his wealth with Alma as meat tends to be much more expensive than bread and I believed was eaten less before the modern era in most cultures...but partaking of the meat was not needed to show the worshipful nature of Alma so was not mentioned in that part of the description, only in demonstrating Amulek's hospitality and respect for Alma. Link to comment
Calm Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Amulek was out of mustard and Alma didn't like his meat without it so he just ate the bread.Wasn't mustard, but A-1 Steak Sauce. Link to comment
The Nehor Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 The meat was there; it just wasn't filling. Link to comment
inquiringmind Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Is this funny? In May of 1898 the First Presidency and the Twelve were discussing the Word of Wisdom. One member read from the 12th volume of the Journal of Discourses where Brigham Young seems to support the idea that the Word of Wisdom is a commandment. “Lorenzo Snow, then President of the Council of Twelve agreed, saying that he believed the Word of Wisdom was a commandment and that it should be carried out to the letter. In doing so, he said, members should be taught to refrain from eating meat except in dire necessity, because Joseph Smith had taught that animals have spirits.” Wilford Woodruff agreed the Word of Wisdom is a commandment, but thinks no action should be taken except that “members should be taught to refrain from meat.” (p. 78)http://bycommonconsent.com/2006/02/21/eating-meat/ Link to comment
Calm Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Meaning strange or not quite right?Sounds fine to me. Leaders have had different ideas about how members should implement the WoW as well as some addressing how members should be treating animals and others not so much. Link to comment
Sevenbak Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Amulek was out of mustard and Alma didn't like his meat without it so he just ate the bread.Actually, It's because mesoamerican horse, which is all they used that animal for, tasted pretty gamey... Link to comment
The Nehor Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Actually, It's because mesoamerican horse, which is all they used that animal for, tasted pretty gamey... To be fair it is good for sausage. Link to comment
Sevenbak Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 To be fair it is good for sausage.But only when ground with an equal percentages of curelom, and using sheum (may be substituted with Neas) for a starchy filler. 3 Link to comment
Sevenbak Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 But seriously… If indeed it was only bread, my guess is that Amulek's offering might not have been Kosher. According to Amulek, he didn't seem to be extremely faithful at the time. And if that's the case, maybe the horse really was a tapir… Link to comment
CV75 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Was he a vegetarian?Yes, and still is very much so!:http://www.restaurantalma.com/menu.aspx 1 Link to comment
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