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I'm going to try and attend this event, it sounds really interesting. There have been some excellent events happening in Utah recently, and this one is free. If anyone else plans on attending and wants to meet me in person, please send me a private message. Thanks
GUEST LECTURE—John Rogers, “Latter-Day Milton”
FROM THE MAXWELL INSTITUTE | 30 MAR 2018
Did John Milton’s seventeenth-century epic poem Paradise Lost play a role in the early development of Mormon theology?
Milton’s heretical speculative theology left an indelible imprint on the conceptual and imaginative structures of early Mormon doctrines of Creation, the Fall, and redemption. Past scholars have noted parallels between Paradise Lost and the visionary writings of Joseph Smith in the Doctrine and Covenants. But Yale University professor of English John Rogers believes some of the most exciting Miltonic contributions to Mormon speculative theology emerged in the years just after Smith’s death in the work of Parley P. Pratt and Orson Pratt.
JFSB—Education in Zion Theater
By Bernard Gui
Chief Lamoni News Service
Dateline Salt Lake City
1 September 2015
Prucella Pratt Young-Greevence, President of the dissident Mormon feminist group Arraign Women and great-great-great-great grandaughter of Brigham Young, released a statement yesterday demanding Church leaders allow women to play on all-male ward basketball teams.The statement was timed to coincide with the opening of the annual church basketball season in Hurricane, Utah.
Citing a ground-breaking study by Mormon historian Phil Buggley, Young-Greevence called on Church leaders to acknowledge the role of women in 19th-century manly Mormon sports such as stick pulling, marble shooting, hoop trumbling, and mumblypeg. "It's time for the Brethren to own up to the truth," she exclaimed. Indeed, "Mormon leaders have traditionally limited these activities to men, but the evidence clearly shows several women and girls actually competed with men in these events at a ward picnic in Hurricane in 1887," Buggley wrote. (1)
Historians disagree over the extent of their participation, but Buggley has unearthed several daguerreotypes of what appear to be Mormon pioneer girls holding clearies and pocket knives in the presence of Mormon deacons. "The Church can no longer deny this. The pictures prove women participated in these games," Buggley told this reporter. BYU religion instructor Brashley Foggelstone has contradicted Buggley. "It's obvious the girls were only holding the objects for the boys. Anyway, those might be cat's eyes, not clearies. Real men did not play with cat's eyes." "That's nonsense," Buggley replied.
To honor the memory of their pioneer sisters, Arraign Women plan to surround the Hurricane First Ward chapel with women brandishing sticks, hula hoops (you know...for kids), steelies, and butterknives, and engage in random competitive matches. Some may even dare to challenge each other in the much more masculine game of splits. "Of course, Mormon men no longer play these sports, but they do play basketball, and that's where we are headed. We demand our rights to play along side them. We can get in their faces literally and figuratively. Church basketball will no longer be the domain of Mormon men!" declared Ima B. Pushey, local Hurricane AW events co-ordinator.
Hurricane First Ward Bishop Dorsal Armbend said Arraign Women will be welcomed to the opening game, but they may participate only in their traditional role as cheer leaders. "They will not actually touch a ball or stand inside the lines," he said. "We don't feel it's right to expose them to the rough and tumble style of play our men are accustomed to. Why, just last year [stake] President B. Orson Frugal cancelled the season when a fight broke out between a bishop and two elders quorum presidents. Our sisters are too refined and genteel for that. Besides, they have their own quilting bees in Relief Society and Young Women," Bishop Armbend clarified.
In a news conference, Young-Greevence and Pushey called on AW sisters all over the world to join in solidarity with the demonstration by wearing basketball jerseys to church. Men are invited to wear mauve ties to show their support. Organizers expect crowds of at least six women to show up at the event.
"Let 'em come," challenged Hurricane Sheriff J. Oscar Whiskers . "We'll show them how we Arraign Women here in Hurricane!"
(1) Phil Buggley, "Sisters in Knickers: The Little-Known Involvement of Mormon Women in 19th-Century Male Amusements," p.1435. Moonshine Institute, 2015.
John Dehlin/Mormonstories made this assertion here:
With that, a few questions came to mind.
1) What has Daniel Peterson and Lou Midgley said or written that some have found to be so harmful or offensive?
2) Why do certain critics of Mormonism seem to get to say whatever they want? If increasing the quality or respectfulness of the discourse is the desired outcome, shouldn't it come from both sides? Because I see more accusatory tones/uncharitableness/un-Christlike tactics coming from the critics than the other way around.
3) By saying that apologetics destroys faith or is un-Christlike, is this simply a tactic to silence or intimidate or attempt to make irrelevant your ideological opponents?
3) Has your experience with apologetics matched John's description above? Has the Maxwell Institute and FAIR been helpful or harmful to your testimony? What does the Maxwell Institute and FAIR do well, and what could be done to make them better?
4) These questions and inquiries apply to MormonThink, as well.
By Bryce Haymond
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