Damien the Leper Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 Hello Val...Do you know who Tom Joad was? I didn't watch the video... my computer is sooo old and slow... Maybe it referred to Joad. I'm going to get something new that my neighbor was showing me. GG Of course. He's a character from the Grapes of Wrath. Here is a memorable quote from Tom Joad: “Then it don’ matter. Then I’ll be all aroun’ in the dark. I’ll be ever’where- wherever you look. Wherever they’s a fight so hungry people can eat, I’ll be there. Wherever they’s a cop beatin’ up a guy, I’ll be there. If Casy knowed, why, I’ll be in the way guys yell when they’re mad an’- I’ll be in the way kids laugh when they’re hungry an’ they know supper’s ready. An’ when our folks eat the stuff they raise an’ live in the houses they build- why, I’ll be there. See? God, I’m talkin’ like Casy. Comes of thinkin’ about him so much. Seems like I can see him sometimes.” This song was originally written by Bruce Springsteen. Here are the lyrics: Men walkin' 'long the railroad tracksGoin' someplace there's no goin' backHighway patrol choppers comin' up over the ridgeHot soup on a campfire under the bridgeShelter line stretchin' 'round the cornerWelcome to the new world orderFamilies sleepin' in their cars in the SouthwestNo home no job no peace no restThe highway is alive tonightBut nobody's kiddin' nobody about where it goesI'm sittin' down here in the campfire lightSearchin' for the ghost of Tom JoadHe pulls a prayer book out of his sleeping bagPreacher lights up a butt and takes a dragWaitin' for when the last shall be first and the first shall be lastIn a cardboard box 'neath the underpassGot a one-way ticket to the promised landYou got a hole in your belly and gun in your handSleeping on a pillow of solid rockBathin' in the city aqueductThe highway is alive tonightWhere it's headed everybody knowsI'm sittin' down here in the campfire lightWaitin' on the ghost of Tom JoadNow Tom said "Mom, wherever there's a cop beatin' a guyWherever a hungry newborn baby criesWhere there's a fight 'gainst the blood and hatred in the airLook for me Mom I'll be thereWherever there's somebody fightin' for a place to standOr decent job or a helpin' handWherever somebody's strugglin' to be freeLook in their eyes Mom you'll see me."Well the highway is alive tonightBut nobody's kiddin' nobody about where it goesI'm sittin' down here in the campfire lightWith the ghost of old Tom Joad And here is Springsteen's version of the song: 1 Link to comment
Garden Girl Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 The quote you gave from Tom was one of my favorite parts... in the movie Henry Fonda played Tom Joad and he had just accidentally killed a man that had killed the preacher (Carridine) as they met to discuss a strike... and Tom, to protect the family, was getting ready to leave his Ma (Jane Darwell) and go on the run and she was asking him how she'd ever find him or know where he was (because the family was not settled but migrant workers). That's when he gave that wonderful dialog as only Fonda could... GG 2 Link to comment
thesometimesaint Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I started a joke... Link to comment
Tacenda Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34vWDb5Fvb4 Helen Sjöholm - You Have To Be There (with lyrics) This is awesome and so what I want to say... Link to comment
Damien the Leper Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) My high school was adamant about not allowing students to read Animal Farm, 1984, The Grapes of Wrath, Fahrenheit 451, Lord of the Flies and Catch 22. I, however, publicly read them and cited them in my world history, US history and US government classes for projects and presentations. I was suspended on several different occasions for my actions. I have and will always refuse to be beaten into social, religious and political submission. Heck...I've been arrested on many occasions for civil disobedience. ;-) ETA: My first arrest was while protesting the Democratic National Convention in 2000 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. Edited March 24, 2014 by Valentinus Link to comment
Garden Girl Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 My high school was adamant about not allowing students to read Animal Farm, 1984, The Grapes of Wrath, Fahrenheit 451, Lord of the Flies and Catch 22. My word... why on earth not? These are some of the best of fiction. I suppose because at least 2 are critical of U.S.... others show how quickly man becomes debased (LotF), which was truly scary... the last scene where the "tribe" is chasing the one boy who had held out for law and civility (Kill the Pig! Kill the Pig!) and he's running/crawling along the ground and suddenly he bumps into the naval officer standing on the beach... who is looking on in disbelief of the spectacle of the tribe before him... Yikes! GG 1 Link to comment
thesometimesaint Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) My high school was adamant about not allowing students to read Animal Farm, 1984, The Grapes of Wrath, Fahrenheit 451, Lord of the Flies and Catch 22. I, however, publicly read them and cited them in my world history, US history and US government classes for projects and presentations. I was suspended on several different occasions for my actions. I have and will always refuse to be beaten into social, religious and political submission. Heck...I've been arrested on many occasions for civil disobedience. ;-) ETA: My first arrest was while protesting the Democratic National Convention in 2000 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. While I never been arrested for anything more serious than a speeding ticket. I demonstrated against the Vietnam War. I studied as regular study The Communist Manifesto in the 9th grade in Huntsville; Alabama in the early 60's. Plus Animal Farm, 1984, Lord of the Flies in the 10th. By the 11 and 12th grades I'd moved back to California and Fahrenheit 451, and Catch 22 were optional but recommended reading. We also studied Ayn Rand's Fountainhead in 12th Grade. Edited March 24, 2014 by thesometimesaint 1 Link to comment
Damien the Leper Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 My word... why on earth not? These are some of the best of fiction. I suppose because at least 2 are critical of U.S.... others show how quickly man becomes debased (LotF), which was truly scary... the last scene where the "tribe" is chasing the one boy who had held out for law and civility (Kill the Pig! Kill the Pig!) and he's running/crawling along the ground and suddenly he bumps into the naval officer standing on the beach... who is looking on in disbelief of the spectacle of the tribe before him... Yikes! GG Heavily evangelical town. You should have seen the reaction to the teacher who taught 2 weeks of history on Communism. Link to comment
halconero Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Heavily evangelical town. You should have seen the reaction to the teacher who taught 2 weeks of history on Communism.This wasn't Wickenburg was it?I hope the answe is no...but after having served the first 9 months of my mission there... Link to comment
Damien the Leper Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 This wasn't Wickenburg was it?I hope the answe is no...but after having served the first 9 months of my mission there... Yes it was. I got into plenty of trouble there. 1 Link to comment
Damien the Leper Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkQiLJyN72A Edited March 26, 2014 by Valentinus Link to comment
Garden Girl Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Horsefeathers, Val! My computer is so old and slow I can't watch any of the videos you posted. I'm going to get something new soon that will allow me to watch videos, access internet, etc etc. GG 2 Link to comment
Damien the Leper Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 Most of the music I post deals with socio-political change/revolution, protest, rebellion,global awareness, etc. Link to comment
Garden Girl Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Most of the music I post deals with socio-political change/revolution, protest, rebellion,global awareness, etc. The times they are'ah changin' GG Link to comment
Foreigner Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 And how do you like this: 1 Link to comment
altersteve Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Today I heard Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt," originally by Nine Inch Nails, for the first time. It broke my heart. 1 Link to comment
thesometimesaint Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I was so much older then I 'm younger that that now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZwncQfvaKk Link to comment
Damien the Leper Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Today I heard Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt," originally by Nine Inch Nails, for the first time. It broke my heart. What an equally powerful song from both Reznor's and Johnny 's perspectives. I love that song. Link to comment
Damien the Leper Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 And how do you like this: Don't know what the lyrics meant but that was one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard. Link to comment
halconero Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 When I'm feeling for a bit of easy listening I enjoy some Matisyahu, a Jewish (used to be quite Orthodox) reggae producer: 1 Link to comment
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