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#1 ERayR

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 11:37 AM

Another young friend died last night.  I don't know how old he was(I never asked) My guess is late 40's early 50's.  He lived with a teenage daughter who now goes to grandma's house.  Massive heart attack.  Just reinforces the tentativeness of life.  It so brings one face to face with ones own mortality.

Edited by ERayR, 27 August 2012 - 11:38 AM.


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Posted 27 August 2012 - 12:38 PM

I'm so sorry!  
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 01:15 PM

Sorry to hear that ERay. Life is fragile.

I feel for the daughter. Loosing a parent as an adult is difficult enough, but loosing one in youth I imagine is a much different thing.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 03:19 PM

My deepest condolences to friends and family.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 03:29 PM

Loss of life is always difficult for loved ones left behind. Passing is, of course, just around the corner for each and all of us. As we age, death knocks with increasing frequency.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:11 PM

Sorry about your friend, Ray...

I become more aware of my vulnerability to death with each passing month/year,,, as my health issues come to the forefront as I age for instance.
I've become more introspective... and have begun to think about being "prepared."  I've made many arrangements legally, etc., and given instructions (because I'm alone) to the person who has agreed to be my representative/executor...  I've become more aware spiritually... so I feel pretty comfortable about all that...
Now, I have taken to making sure each day that I am prepared physically (clothing, etc) in case I should simply fall over (I don't want to be embarrassed ).

Now let me ask you all something, regardless of your age... how prepared are you to face unexpected death... not only temporally, but more importantly...spiritually.  If something happened (heaven forbid) and you suddenly found yourself on the other side of the veil, are you prepared?  Are you ready to stand before the Savior?  Ask yourself that question with all honesty... it's one thing to reach my age, but quite another to be younger with what you think are years in front of you... what if those years were taken away and wham... surprise!

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:33 PM

View PostGarden Girl, on 27 August 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Sorry about your friend, Ray...

I become more aware of my vulnerability to death with each passing month/year,,, as my health issues come to the forefront as I age for instance.
I've become more introspective... and have begun to think about being "prepared."  I've made many arrangements legally, etc., and given instructions (because I'm alone) to the person who has agreed to be my representative/executor...  I've become more aware spiritually... so I feel pretty comfortable about all that...
Now, I have taken to making sure each day that I am prepared physically (clothing, etc) in case I should simply fall over (I don't want to be embarrassed ).

Now let me ask you all something, regardless of your age... how prepared are you to face unexpected death... not only temporally, but more importantly...spiritually.  If something happened (heaven forbid) and you suddenly found yourself on the other side of the veil, are you prepared?  Are you ready to stand before the Savior?  Ask yourself that question with all honesty... it's one thing to reach my age, but quite another to be younger with what you think are years in front of you... what if those years were taken away and wham... surprise!

GG

I agree whole heartedly.  It is just that when someone who is 20 years younger suddenly goes ... well.  And I have had two this month - one an automobile accident one a massive heart attack.

Edited by ERayR, 27 August 2012 - 07:35 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:34 PM

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Edited by ERayR, 27 August 2012 - 07:35 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:56 PM

View PostGarden Girl, on 27 August 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Sorry about your friend, Ray...

I become more aware of my vulnerability to death with each passing month/year,,, as my health issues come to the forefront as I age for instance.
I've become more introspective... and have begun to think about being "prepared."  I've made many arrangements legally, etc., and given instructions (because I'm alone) to the person who has agreed to be my representative/executor...  I've become more aware spiritually... so I feel pretty comfortable about all that...
Now, I have taken to making sure each day that I am prepared physically (clothing, etc) in case I should simply fall over (I don't want to be embarrassed ).

Now let me ask you all something, regardless of your age... how prepared are you to face unexpected death... not only temporally, but more importantly...spiritually.  If something happened (heaven forbid) and you suddenly found yourself on the other side of the veil, are you prepared?  Are you ready to stand before the Savior?  Ask yourself that question with all honesty... it's one thing to reach my age, but quite another to be younger with what you think are years in front of you... what if those years were taken away and wham... surprise!

GG
My health has gotten so bad so fast since accident, I had better be ready soon. Even the insulin is not helping right now, and I have form of Lopus. Right now I have short goals...see Caleb in 4 months, and new grandson. If that comes then I will set new target...it looks like right now, no more full-time work...in this life.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:10 PM

Just make sure you don't die with regrets like this guy did:


Edited by The Nehor, 27 August 2012 - 08:11 PM.

Twisting God's work into my own hellish, slithering, mutatious...thing.

I support NCMO.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 07:27 AM

View PostPa Pa, on 27 August 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:

My health has gotten so bad so fast since accident, I had better be ready soon. Even the insulin is not helping right now, and I have form of Lopus. Right now I have short goals...see Caleb in 4 months, and new grandson. If that comes then I will set new target...it looks like right now, no more full-time work...in this life.

So sorry to hear Pa Pa.  My wife has Lupus and Diabetes and we are constantly battling glucose levels.  Either too high or too low.  We have a local diabetes center that is a lot of help.  My prayers are with you.

Ray

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 02:35 AM

Sorry Ray for your loss.

Yet I'm glad you mourn. Don't misunderstand please. To mourn, means a person, touched a life, meant something to someone, was liked even loved. It can be to easy to take that for granted. Wishing those hurting from your friends passing, find peace and comfort, yourself included of course.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 07:29 AM

Thanks all.  Friends are so precious it is difficult when you lose any.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 01:26 PM

View PostERayR, on 28 August 2012 - 07:27 AM, said:

So sorry to hear Pa Pa.  My wife has Lupus and Diabetes and we are constantly battling glucose levels.  Either too high or too low.  We have a local diabetes center that is a lot of help.  My prayers are with you.

Ray
Have you looked into a real time glucose monitor to help with measurement?  We actually got one for our daughter...when she has tight control she has way too many lows which the insurance companies don't like.  We had to collect 6 weeks of blood sugars and we just made sure those six weeks were very tight controlled, lots of testing and we got the lows showing up as expected without any additional 'prompting'.

Unfortunately her anxiety levels are so high right now (due to thyroid issues) that she just can't even think about having another 'alien object' dangling from her body so we haven't had a chance to see how it works for her (her sugars have been perfect lately so I haven't insisted she use it yet, unless other things change as well, there will be a deadline involved soon though).  The monitor is a bit of a hassle to get going, but would be worth it if the sugars are over the place and you are clueless why.  You get a reading every 5 minutes plus you know whether sugars are going up or down.

Sometimes there is a local doctor who will use a continuous monitor with his patients for several days and then evaluate those results....not quite as good as having the info immediately on hand but at least you might be able to get some pattern, you might check around to see if one of your local doctors does that.

Is your wife on a pump?
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 03:13 PM

View Postcalmoriah, on 30 August 2012 - 01:26 PM, said:

Have you looked into a real time glucose monitor to help with measurement?  We actually got one for our daughter...when she has tight control she has way too many lows which the insurance companies don't like.  We had to collect 6 weeks of blood sugars and we just made sure those six weeks were very tight controlled, lots of testing and we got the lows showing up as expected without any additional 'prompting'.

Unfortunately her anxiety levels are so high right now (due to thyroid issues) that she just can't even think about having another 'alien object' dangling from her body so we haven't had a chance to see how it works for her (her sugars have been perfect lately so I haven't insisted she use it yet, unless other things change as well, there will be a deadline involved soon though).  The monitor is a bit of a hassle to get going, but would be worth it if the sugars are over the place and you are clueless why.  You get a reading every 5 minutes plus you know whether sugars are going up or down.

Sometimes there is a local doctor who will use a continuous monitor with his patients for several days and then evaluate those results....not quite as good as having the info immediately on hand but at least you might be able to get some pattern, you might check around to see if one of your local doctors does that.

Is your wife on a pump?

No.  There are two issues with that right now.  First is we seem to be able to take care of it pretty well by a three or four times daily testing and vigorous insulin to carbohydrate ratio.  Second they are pricy and I don't think medicare covers them.

Thanks.

Edited by ERayR, 31 August 2012 - 03:13 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2012 - 03:37 PM

They are pricey.  No way could we afford it without insurance.  Diabetes is an expensive disease.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 04:06 PM

View Postcalmoriah, on 31 August 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

They are pricey.  No way could we afford it without insurance.  Diabetes is an expensive disease.

Yup insulin alone about $300 per month.  Test strip about $125.  That doesn't take into account the secondary infections it opens one up to.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:38 PM

Very sorry for your loss.
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