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Enslaved By Science

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#261 mfbukowski

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 10:13 PM

TAO, on 02 September 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

Wow, mfb, I wish Log were still here. I know he'd disagree with us on alot of stuff, but he was fun to talk to on issues like this.

I have his email-

"I see Religion as creating a language to speak of the divine and sacred. Since I see creating this language as a creative act, ... creating a certain view of heaven and earth, a living 'image' of God and Man and their story, past, present and future." - Calmoriah

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#262 TAO

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 10:17 PM

mfbukowski, on 02 September 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

I have his email-

I might have to get that from you some day (with his permission, of course). Not only for philosophy, but we both also really like gaming to an extent. I might be working on something Multi-player in the future... so he might be interested.

Edited by TAO, 02 September 2012 - 10:18 PM.

...my religion is built on the belief system and I believe that God will always find a way to make things just and fair even though it seems impossible. I accept this axiom without proof because I believe and hope that it must be true and in my heart I know it's true. That' s my testimony... -- Ajax18

As anyone who has ever been around a cat for any length of time well knows, cats have enormous patience with the limitations of the human kind. -- Cleveland Armory ... I have studied many philosophers and many cats. The wisdom of cats is infinitely superior. -- Hippolyte Taine

[On what God will say of one's own spiritual valiance]... I'd be content if He could just say to me, "Well, you weren't completely worthless." - Nathair

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#263 mfbukowski

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 10:18 PM

supersnail, on 02 September 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

I am trying to a salvage an empirical naturalistic perspective that could serve as a warning sign of sorts to scientists on a road to disbelief. I believe scientists or science-minded people would be more inclined to agree with that perspective.

I'm not saying I'm on that road of course (I am trying to clarify various things to myself, because I don't want to end up with regrets years from now and whine about being "lied" to etc.), but such views resonate with me.

No doubt you are familiar with Quine, and I think you've mentioned him a few times, so you probably know where I'm coming from. I think I do get what you are saying, but I am trying an approach that is a bit different.

I'm not trying to mix scriptures with Quine. I'm just saying...it makes sense to me this way, or rather, disbelief doesn't make sense to me, for these reasons.

Well that seems a noble cause. I don't think one could mix scriptures with Quine regardless of how much one tried but I have no problem with the attempt

If you are in the LA area we should "do lunch" too!

"I see Religion as creating a language to speak of the divine and sacred. Since I see creating this language as a creative act, ... creating a certain view of heaven and earth, a living 'image' of God and Man and their story, past, present and future." - Calmoriah

My Blog: Theomorphic Man http://theomorphicman.blogspot.com/

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#264 mfbukowski

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 10:20 PM

TAO, on 02 September 2012 - 10:17 PM, said:

I might have to get that from you some day (with his permission, of course). Not only for philosophy, but we both also really like gaming to an extent. I might be working on something Multi-player in the future... so he might be interested.

He is considering some interesting projects the last time I heard- probably now a couple of months ago.

"I see Religion as creating a language to speak of the divine and sacred. Since I see creating this language as a creative act, ... creating a certain view of heaven and earth, a living 'image' of God and Man and their story, past, present and future." - Calmoriah

My Blog: Theomorphic Man http://theomorphicman.blogspot.com/

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#265 mfbukowski

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 10:24 PM

volgadon, on 02 September 2012 - 09:08 PM, said:

In addition, as he's going to be teaching politics, I've told him he's welcome to teach any of the great socialist thinkers, provided he makes it clear that they were wrong.

Yes, you are probably right. I get attacked for even mentioning even John Dewey around here.

But of course we all know their views actually were objectively and scientifically FALSE so there is no problem.

"I see Religion as creating a language to speak of the divine and sacred. Since I see creating this language as a creative act, ... creating a certain view of heaven and earth, a living 'image' of God and Man and their story, past, present and future." - Calmoriah

My Blog: Theomorphic Man http://theomorphicman.blogspot.com/