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Johnny - Does eternal have bounds?

Actually, yes, it does. The Hebrew "Qedem," as well as "'olam" can mean endless duration, but they also can mean limited time in either past or future, so it depends on which context you aregue from and use in the Hebrew meaning of the scriptures.

Indeed. This is correct.

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ScriptureLover  writes,

Actually, yes, it does.

I would agree. Does infinite have bounds?

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Johnny - God is love ... does love need anyone to love it?

Actually, yes. Love is only love when it is freely given away with no thought of reward in return. Love is a *verb* of action, not a noun as a simple thing existing in isolation.

That's what I have been trying to tell him by reminding him that the idealized Trinity did nothing and had no one to love and nothing to love it.

Paul O

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The beginning is the beginning of space and time. God is beyond space and time.

And what did he do during that time he had on his hands? Where was he when he did those things

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Paul Osborne  writes,

That's what I have been trying to tell him by reminding him that the idealized Trinity did nothing and had no one to love and nothing to love it.

The Trinity is one but it is not solitary.

The Godhead, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, is one.

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Does eternity have a beginning?

Your Trinity God was all alone for eternity with nothing to do. Does that answer your question?

Paul O

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Paul Osborne  writes,

And what did he do during that time he had on his hands? Where was he when he did those things

As I have said before the Bible does not reveal what he did and where he was?

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Paul Osborne  writes,

Your Trinity God was all alone for eternity with nothing to do. Does that answer your question?

How can three persons be alone?

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Again the Bible does not reveal what they did ... What do the Mormon scriptures reveal?

Jesus did not have a glorified body prior to his incarnation.

The Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father.

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Johnny - I would agree. Does infinite have bounds?

Yes. George Cantor, the great mathematician of the inifinite showed that there are different types of infinities. Each one has their own peculiar limitations, interestingly enough! For all that, they literally are infinite however.......eternal yet with limitations. The Hebrew of the Bible actually utilizes language in the same way, to show a foreverness yet limitation to time, God, events, places, etc.

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Paul Osborne  writes,

But it's ONE God! Or so I thought that was what you believed. But now you say there are more than one? Three persons?

It's one divine nature. It is one God in three divine persons.

God is one but not solitary.

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ScriptureLover  writes,

Yes. George Cantor showed that there are different types of infinities.

What are the three types?

Do all three types have bounds?

Could you provide a link to "George Cantor"?

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Again the Bible does not reveal what they did ... What do the Mormon scriptures reveal?

Jesus did not have a glorified body prior to his incarnation.

The Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father.

So we have a Trinity in existence before anything was made. The Trinity hadn

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ScriptureLover  writes,

For all that, they literally are infinite however.......eternal yet with limitations. The Hebrew of the Bible actually utilizes language in the same way, to show a foreverness yet limitation to time, God, events, places, etc.

Is God bound by space and time?

Is a man bound by space and time?

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Johnny, what was the very first word ever uttered vocally by any member of the Trinity?

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Jesus did not have a glorified body prior to his incarnation.

Therefore he was not yet made perfect in all things. He needed to have a body in order to perfect himself. Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

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Johnny, which member of the Trinity spoke first?

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The Bible does not reveal that they talked about ... what do the Mormon scriptures reveal?

The Father is the source of divinity.

The Bible says the person of the Holy Ghost proceeds.

The Bible does not reveal that they did ... what do the Mormon scriptures reveal?

The first word that the Bible reveals is "Let their be light".

Jesus was perfect as True God. Jesus was not perfect as True man.

The Father is the source of the Word, the Son is the Word

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Johnny, the Mormon religion reveals that God has a Father and was begotten in heaven. Go figure.

Apparently the Bible doesn

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Jesus was perfect as True God. Jesus was not perfect as True man.

How could he have been perfected without his body? He had to have his body.

Paul O

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Paul Osborne  writes,

Johnny, the Mormon religion reveals that God has a Father and was begotten in heaven. Go figure.

How strange, because clearly the Bible does not reveal this.

Also, might you tell me if there was a first time the Holy Ghost proceeded from the Father? I assume he was at his Father

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The Father is the source of the Word, the Son is the Word

Oh, I see. So you mean to tell me that the divine incantation of,

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