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#1 Olavarria

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 04:56 PM

(1)Limited Geography and Time
Joseph's explanations need not represent the understanding of all Egyptians in all of Egypt and throughout time, but rather only those of the ancient owner's of the Book of Abraham and/or Abraham himself. Semites in the Syria-Levant used Egyptian artistic styles in non-Egyptian ways.

(2)Not using Joseph's Explanations to inform our understanding of Egyptian Art, but using Egyptian Art to inform our understanding of Joseph's Explanations.
If we do this, we can stay away from parallelomania, false and strained "hits" but most importantly we can find convergences that illuminate our understanding of what Joseph's divinely inspired interpretations may actually mean.  


In two OP's that are apparently gone, I made a case for viewing Kolob as Sirius and for viewing the unpublished/untranslated/lost portions of the Book of Abraham as containing the priesthood initiation of an ancient Semite in Pharaoh's presence using this method.  Of course, my interpretations can be completely bogus but who knows? A Seer exists to give us information that we otherwise would not see. So why not combine what Joseph gives us with what we learn from study and see what we come up with?

Edited by Olavarria, 20 June 2012 - 05:02 PM.


#2 cinepro

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 05:07 PM

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#3 Olavarria

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 06:56 PM

I was thinking aloud on the topic which I no longer believe, with the other thread that I made today on the book of abraham. However, if you read that thread, you will see why I think the missing portions of the book of abraham describe abraham initiating somebody into the priesthood. I just went off on a tangent with the other stuff.

#4 Chris Smith

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:22 PM

View PostOlavarria, on 20 June 2012 - 04:56 PM, said:

In two OP's that are apparently gone,

I don't understand. Why are your threads getting locked and deleted? Did you anger the moderator gods?

Edited by Chris Smith, 20 June 2012 - 08:22 PM.


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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:22 PM

I stand all amazed....and confused. These threads are like "whack-a-mole" They appear,they move,they are shut down etc. HELP!!

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:27 PM

View PostOlavarria, on 20 June 2012 - 04:56 PM, said:

(1)Limited Geography and Time
Joseph's explanations need not represent the understanding of all Egyptians in all of Egypt and throughout time, but rather only those of the ancient owner's of the Book of Abraham and/or Abraham himself. Semites in the Syria-Levant used Egyptian artistic styles in non-Egyptian ways.

(2)Not using Joseph's Explanations to inform our understanding of Egyptian Art, but using Egyptian Art to inform our understanding of Joseph's Explanations.
If we do this, we can stay away from parallelomania, false and strained "hits" but most importantly we can find convergences that illuminate our understanding of what Joseph's divinely inspired interpretations may actually mean.  


In two OP's that are apparently gone, I made a case for viewing Kolob as Sirius and for viewing the unpublished/untranslated/lost portions of the Book of Abraham as containing the priesthood initiation of an ancient Semite in Pharaoh's presence using this method.  Of course, my interpretations can be completely bogus but who knows? A Seer exists to give us information that we otherwise would not see. So why not combine what Joseph gives us with what we learn from study and see what we come up with?

I really like what you said about seers. I'll see if I can send you a little essay you might enjoy along similar lines. In fact, I think your whole post is pertinent.
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