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[Log]

http://voxday.blogsp...ny-lawyers.html

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Of course, unemployment is not the real problem with producing two lawyers for every one legal job. The primary problem is that lawyers are one of the few professions where they can easily create demand for their services at the expense of everyone else in society. It's as if doctors were out there breaking legs and releasing flu viruses in order to ensure a growing demand for their services.

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Now, it was for the sole purpose to get ^again, because [the lawyers] received their wages according to their ^bemploy, therefore, they did ^cstir up the people to ^driotings, and all manner of disturbances and wickedness, that they might have more employ, that they might ^eget ^fmoney according to the suits which were brought before them...

Little insights like that point up the relevance of this book to the concerns of today.

Edited by Log, 25 April 2012 - 12:58 PM.

[LDSGuy]

The Book of Mormon is spot on with this topic.  However, a righteous lawyer in certain times can be invaluable.

Edited by LDSGuy, 25 April 2012 - 03:29 PM.

[Mark Beesley]

Log, on 25 April 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

http://voxday.blogsp...ny-lawyers.html

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Little insights like that point up the relevance of this book to the concerns of today.

Anybody with a blog can spout an opinion.

So great, you don't like lawyers and liberals.  What does the Book of Mormon say about people who refuse to give to beggers because they think the beggars are at fault for their own circumstance?

Ever hear anyone bemoan the conspiracy of welfare moms?  Aren't they just beggers putting up their petition?  Do people want to deny their petition because they judge them, just like the Book of Mormon says not to?

[Hestia]

This looks like it should be in discussions not social hall.

[DarkScythe]

compassion and giving money to the poor is a good thing but forcing someone else to give to the poor is a bad thing. Force someone against their wishes to do good is still evil.


Free will+compassion+able to give or help the poor+give or help the poor is what God wants.

[Log]

Mark Beesley, on 25 April 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

So great, you don't like lawyers and liberals.

Wow, tell me more about what I like and don't like!  How about food - what kinds of food do you think I don't like?  What isn't my favorite color?

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What does the Book of Mormon say about people who refuse to give to beggers because they think the beggars are at fault for their own circumstance?

I don't know; why don't you tell me?

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Ever hear anyone bemoan the conspiracy of welfare moms?

No, why don't you tell me about it?

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Aren't they just beggers putting up their petition?

No.  Beggars ask people for voluntary handouts of their own property.  Nothing beyond moral suasion is involved.

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Do people want to deny their petition because they judge them, just like the Book of Mormon says not to?

Since the answer to the first question was no, the answer to the second question is likewise no.

You see, it is moral, and laudable, to give of your own substance to benefit others.  It is immoral, and reprehensible, to take from others by force to give to someone else.  That I should have to educate a fellow saint on the immorality of coercion is rather incredible in this day and age, when the printing press has been around for hundreds of years, but, that's the situation I find myself in.  Astounding.

I read a patriarchal blessing once that said something interesting.  Since it wasn't your blessing, you may choose to disregard this.

"Self-righteousness is an enemy to repentance."  I dunno why I thought of that when I read your post, but there it is.

I'm also not sure why Hestia didn't threadban you for taking personal swipes and argumentative thread derailing in Social Hall, but, oh well.

[Kenngo1969]

Lawyers are like cops: everybody hates 'em ... until they need one.

[Mark Beesley]

Log, on 25 April 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

I'm also not sure why Hestia didn't threadban you for taking personal swipes and argumentative thread derailing in Social Hall, but, oh well.

'Cause I'm a likeable guy.

Any thread that takes aim at a profession does not belong in the Social Hall. Sorry.

[Log]

Since the guilty party has confessed to not appreciating my light-hearted jab at the oldest profession, I submit this.

Lawyers:what's not to love?

See, especially, these.

Edited by Log, 25 April 2012 - 11:26 PM.

[JeremyOrbe-Smith]

[Log]

ha ha ha

Lawyers are like guns.  You want to hold one in front of you in a gun fight.

Lawyer bash somewhere else.