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It Is Almost Here Again…Why Are Father’S Less Important?


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#1 Pa Pa

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:10 AM

Once again as Mother’s Day approaches everyone is excited to here from Caleb on his mission. I went through this once when my oldest served a mission and the question still remains. Why are missionaries, only allowed to call on Mother’s Day and Christmas? Do we as Father’s love our children any less? I can tell you the answer is no!

How many think that 3 phone calls in a year is too much to ask?
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:43 AM

I agree with you!  When my son was on his mission I felt the same way.  I thought perhaps it might be because the two days fall so close together, so I choose  to consider it a "two for one".
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 06:46 AM

On my mission, we got to call home on both mother's and father's day (as well as Christmast).

I wouldn't be surprised if most mission presidents believe that the two holidays are too close together to warrent separate calls on each one though.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:13 AM

It is something that can get in your craw and drive your crazy if you let it.  I think it is better to pick your battles and let the rest go.  The important thing for me is that I know my son loves me and he knows that I love him.  Whether he called on his two-year mission to tell me so was pretty irrelevant.

Just so you know I have several other issues that cause me heartburn; you are not alone in getting something in your craw and not being able to get it out.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:41 AM

I would hope that no one is monitoring the call on mother's day so that Dad can say hello too.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:17 AM

View Postblackstrap, on 24 April 2012 - 07:41 AM, said:

I would hope that no one is monitoring the call on mother's day so that Dad can say hello too.

Danite agents let that slip routinely when monitoring missionary calls.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:24 AM

View PostThe Nehor, on 24 April 2012 - 08:17 AM, said:


Danite agents let that slip routinely when monitoring missionary calls.

You mean, we can do that?  Who knew?!  
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:27 PM

Of course fathers don't love their children any less.  But, mothers cry.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 05:00 PM

It stinks to be discriminated against because of your gender, huh?   Your boy is going to be home this year Pa Pa?
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 07:25 AM

View Postblackstrap, on 24 April 2012 - 07:41 AM, said:

I would hope that no one is monitoring the call on mother's day so that Dad can say hello too.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 07:26 AM

View PostThe Nehor, on 24 April 2012 - 08:17 AM, said:


Danite agents let that slip routinely when monitoring missionary calls.
I KNEW IT! With my luck they are reading this thread.

Edited by Pa Pa, 01 May 2012 - 07:27 AM.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 07:27 AM

View Postkatherine the great, on 25 April 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

It stinks to be discriminated against because of your gender, huh?   Your boy is going to be home this year Pa Pa?
Jan 12th of 2013...8 more months.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 07:28 AM

View Postkatherine the great, on 25 April 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

It stinks to be discriminated against because of your gender, huh?   Your boy is going to be home this year Pa Pa?
Espesially when it is my gender...
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:24 AM

Papa, Is the missionary told "You may call only your mother on Mothers Day" or is the missionary told "You may call home on Mothers Day".    If the instruction is the latter, then you can speak to your missionary. I see this as a parable of the talents situation.
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So if you can talk to your missionary on Mothers Day and Christmas and so can your wife, then other than getting to talk to your missionary more, everyone is treated the same. On my mission, we notified family ahead of time that we could call, and we spent all day on the phone speaking to everyone.

As Christ instructed his missionaries "Wise as serpents, harmless as Doves."

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:16 AM

It may be that Moms yearn more for that contact.  When I was on my mission, I received a letter from home weekly.  They were all written by my mother, except one which was written by my father. Sorry to say, I wasn't much better when my sons and daughter went on missions.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:33 AM

I am aware of some missionaries who were enabled to call home on Father's day.  This was due to the fact they were from a broken home.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 12:37 PM

View Posttreehugger, on 02 May 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

Papa, Is the missionary told "You may call only your mother on Mothers Day" or is the missionary told "You may call home on Mothers Day".  
I just love him so much I'll grasp at any straw for another call. I love my babies...and he is our youngest so he is the baby.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:13 PM

My mission president interpreted it a little differently.  When I tried to do my 2nd Christmas call I never heard from them (I would call the morning of to tell them my number so that they could call back.  They could afford a long international call, I couldn't.)  All day I waited and still nothing.  In the evening I called the MP to ask what my options were and he was very quick to tell me that calling on the 26th would not be an issue.  "You get a Christmas Call Elder.  There's nothing that says it has to be on Christmas Day."

Turned out that they had forgotten the number when they left the house for the grandparents and copied the number down incorrectly when they called the girl watching the house to read it to them.  Apparently there was quite a bit of excitement in the office when my parents called to find out what my number was since I had just hung up with the President after he called to see if I had managed to hear from them.  My timing is always awesome like that XD

As for a Father's Day call, I think President Hinckley talked about the idea best in 2003:

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My children are now all grown. Some are in their 60s. But when they call and I answer the phone, they say, “How are you?” And before I can answer, they ask, “Is Mother there?”

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:12 AM

View PostPa Pa, on 01 May 2012 - 07:27 AM, said:

Jan 12th of 2013...8 more months.
Sweet!  I have one going out this summer.   for him, for me.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:33 AM

View Postkatherine the great, on 04 May 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

Sweet!  I have one going out this summer.   for him, for me.
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Edited by Pa Pa, 04 May 2012 - 09:34 AM.

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