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[Tarski]

The second half of the story usually doesn't get enough airplay.

For those of you (and you know who you are) that crowed about this faster than light neutrino thing (for some weird anti-science reason), I offer the second half of the story which in general terms  turned out like some of us knew it would:

It was just a loose cable.

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Edited by Tarski, 23 April 2012 - 06:57 PM.

[calmoriah]

That's too bad....not because I am antiscience, I am just proweird science, it's so much fun.

[shalamabobbi]

Yes, I read about this shortly after it came out. May I ad my voice in proclaiming  "NEENER  NEENER"  to the anti-science crowd..

[calmoriah]

Don't you guys like little oddities of science?  Or do you prefer it all to be cut and dried?

[JeremyOrbe-Smith]

Yeah, I'm not surprised this turned out to be the case, but I am pretty bummed. Woulda been so cool!

[shalamabobbi]

Little oddity is an understatement. Grand self-contradiction with everything that is known is more apropos.

Most scientists knew how this would turn out, though at least one that I know of went on record stating he hoped it were real because it would open new doors, etc., but I think he knew better..

[Log]

Who's anti-science?  What I found interesting were the rationalizations brought to bear in explaining the phenomenon before this ultimate explanation was discovered.

[shalamabobbi]

Log, on 23 April 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

Who's anti-science?  What I found interesting were the rationalizations brought to bear in explaining the phenomenon before this ultimate explanation was discovered.

There weren't any from me..  NEENER  NEENER  

[The Nehor]

I expected it would be a minor error but hoped it wouldn't be.

I tried to do this:

[Whiskeypete]

Log, on 23 April 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

Who's anti-science?  What I found interesting were the rationalizations brought to bear in explaining the phenomenon before this ultimate explanation was discovered.

Yes, but there were plenty of people, especially those who tend to favor religious explanations for the physical world, rather than "scientific" ones, who were saying things like, "See, scientists don't know everything. The theory of relativity has just been disproven, and you know that evolution is just a theory too"

[rodheadlee]

So there can't ever be FTL travel? or ansible communications?

[The Nehor]

rodheadlee, on 24 April 2012 - 06:15 AM, said:

So there can't ever be FTL travel? or ansible communications?

Not by any method we know of which doesn't make it impossible. To some this makes it seem improbable.

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

I am not anti science, but I like it when knew light is shed on something and theories change. I thought it might happen here but I was doubtful. Oh well. Now what I am is anti numbers. I hate numbers I really had prime numbers. Ugh!!

[thesometimesaint]

I always assumed it was a technical glitch, but just think of the possiblilities if it panned out. Warp Drive still needs some work.

[phaedrus ut]

This is exactly why science is beautiful and why the scientific method works.

Phaedrus

[Log]

phaedrus ut, on 24 April 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

This is exactly why science is beautiful and why the scientific method works.

LOL

Edited by Log, 24 April 2012 - 12:04 PM.

[thesometimesaint]

Science by definition is always tentative so in that sense it is always wrong and always right. Newton wasn't wrong, but Einstein was better, Einstein wasn't wrong, but Quantum Mechanics is better. Assuming something will replace QM doesn't make it wrong just that that something is better. Further I don't need a God(real or imagined) to tell me that.

Edited by thesometimesaint, 24 April 2012 - 12:26 PM.

[Tarski]

thesometimesaint, on 24 April 2012 - 12:25 PM, said:

Science by definition is always tentative so in that sense it is always wrong and always right. Newton wasn't wrong, but Einstein was better, Einstein wasn't wrong, but Quantum Mechanics is better. Assuming something will replace QM doesn't make it wrong just that that something is better. Further I don't need a God(real or imagined) to tell me that.

On the other hand, some things are just wrong--really really wrong. Pick any religion and go down the list of "revealed" doctrines and supernatural stories believed on faith for examples.


Or, pick any one of FrankTalk's favorite fringe theories.

Edited by Tarski, 24 April 2012 - 02:30 PM.

[mfbukowski]

Tarski, on 24 April 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

On the other hand, some things are just wrong--really really wrong. Pick any religion and go down the list of "revealed" doctrines and supernatural stories believed on faith for examples.


Or, pick any one of FrankTalk's favorite fringe theories.

Aw come on dude!

Religion gives us all purpose in life-  What would you do with your time if you couldn't come here and tell us all how dumb we are??

[The Nehor]

Log, on 24 April 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

LOL

What a lot of drivel. Science is wrong 89% of the time? What? Why do people like this use the internet if they are convinced quantum theory is most likely wrong?