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calmoriah, on 24 April 2012 - 02:01 PM, said:

What, lawyers don't make mistakes in communication?

I would not expect them to, no - don't they go to school for an additional 6 years to make them masters of communication?

Edited by Log, 24 April 2012 - 02:07 PM.

[calmoriah]

Do you know any lawyers personally?  I do and they make mistakes all the time, even in their legal work.

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calmoriah, on 24 April 2012 - 03:00 PM, said:

Do you know any lawyers personally?  I do and they make mistakes all the time, even in their legal work.

Let's see, there's at least three in my ward, one of which is the Stake President.

I just figure if a lawyer uses a rhetorical trick to gain the upper hand in an argument, they mean to use it.  Would you not agree?

[ERayR]

Buckeye, on 24 April 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

I think the amount of scholarship on the priesthood ban is larger than that for MMM.  Thus, if the Church could "apologize" or "express regret" (choose your phrase) for MMM, it could also do so for the priesthood ban.  If additional understanding is needed, then it should be sought.  Perhaps the Church could commission an independent review of all the historical materials relating to the ban, just at it did with MMM.

You are a smart fellow so I think you know the difference between an apology and expressing regret.  I often express regret that I didn't win the lottery but I do not apologize for not buying a ticket.

Are you willing to swear unequivocally that you know what was in the minds of those who started this practice?

[Bob Oliverio]

http://www.chron.com...-in-3520651.php

Again, this is the very problem.  Unofficial individuals and unofficial websites that simply don't have the official backing of The Church trying to come across as making official statements.  I have know idea who these two guys mentioned in the article are nor have I ever heard of this website.  But anyone, including the media can google onto all of the embarrassing statements of past prophets and leaders, as well as the whole "white and delightsome" of our scriptures, and is it any wonder they think our Church is racist!!!!

It's absolutely amazing to me that the best the Church can do is leave it those who have zero capacity to officially speak on behalf of the Church to attempt to provide official answers.  

Why is President Monson and/or The First Presidency so afraid to put themselves out in the public to answer questions  and explain our doctrines in an official capacity?

I mean how many in the general population would ever even see this websight?

[volgadon]

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Again, this is the very problem.  Unofficial individuals and unofficial websites that simply don't have the official backing of The Church trying to come across as making official statements.

You have no idea how ironic that sounds.

[ERayR]

Bob Oliverio, on 30 April 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

http://www.chron.com...-in-3520651.php

Again, this is the very problem.  Unofficial individuals and unofficial websites that simply don't have the official backing of The Church trying to come across as making official statements.  I have know idea who these two guys mentioned in the article are nor have I ever heard of this website.  But anyone, including the media can google onto all of the embarrassing statements of past prophets and leaders, as well as the whole "white and delightsome" of our scriptures, and is it any wonder they think our Church is racist!!!!

It's absolutely amazing to me that the best the Church can do is leave it those who have zero capacity to officially speak on behalf of the Church to attempt to provide official answers.  

Why is President Monson and/or The First Presidency so afraid to put themselves out in the public to answer questions  and explain our doctrines in an official capacity?

I mean how many in the general population would ever even see this websight?

Because your interpretation of the events is not so cut and dried as you seem to think it is.