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#161 selek1

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 03:10 PM

3DOP,

Reference Post #151 above.

Well said, sir!

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 03:33 PM

View Postcalmoriah, on 18 April 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

Whether or not they are mutually exclusive says nothing about which is a better description for what blue does.  
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it is more of a coincidence than an intended result.


I'm quite sure that participating on this board is definitely the cause of some of my lunacy... .  I believe I had the pure intention of understanding the best LDS answers to whatever the topic is.

What this has done is that I normally cringe when I hear or read what some non-LDS may make a statement in regards to the LDS faithful and this includes the RCC leadership.  Of course, I cringe just as well when I hear a Catholic try to explain their faith to a Mormon as well.

I'm a friendly critic who believes that he has to correct the OBVIOUS misrepresentations of other non-LDS in regards to Mormonism that he meets in real life.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 04:48 PM

View PostJaybear, on 18 April 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

Interesting.  I asked you for your personal  opinion on what you consider the most effective way to communicate your religious belief to a third party, and you accuse me of putting words in your mouth.

We must be living on different planets.

You must be living on the planet called "out of context" since your question was couched as an argument allegedly in contravention to what I had said about "effective." Seemingly, the air is bit to thin where you live, and may explain your persistent confusion and your apparent inability to follow the line of discussion. LOL

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:01 PM

If Catholics say we are not "Christian" because we do not believe the same way about Jesus Christ, being the Son of God and Redeemer of all, then the most they can say is that we are not "Catholic Christians".
Same with any other flavor of Christian belief.

My .02 anyways

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:19 PM

View PostJaybear, on 18 April 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:

My point is that since you don't consider their baptisms to be valid, nor do you consider them to be members of Christ's Church, seems hypocritical to whine that they don't consider Mormons to be part of their club.

You may have a point if "their club" was Christianity rather than Catholicism. Since it isn't, then you don't--not that this has anything to do with you.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:30 PM

I used to care when Catholics and other "Christians" would say that Mormons aren't Christian but anymore I just don't care. Don't care to justify my Christianity, faith, or scripture as Christian. Ive come to the realization that no matter what I say I would be just as productive I I were to try to convince a wall that I am Christian. You don't believe I am Christian and I don't believe that your communion wafers are the literal flesh of Christ. Let's forget about labeling each other and just be friends or at least civil to one another.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:34 PM

View Postblueadept, on 18 April 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

I'm a friendly critic who believes that he has to correct the OBVIOUS misrepresentations of other non-LDS in regards to Mormonism that he meets in real life.
I have always found you very fair and reasonable, as well as kind.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 10:15 PM

View Postmfbukowski, on 18 April 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

I have always found you very fair and reasonable, as well as kind.
Me too. I am glad that he is back posting here. I have known him from the board a long time and I know his story and why he began to post on what was then MAD or was it the FAIR board at that time?  He was searching to understand the faith of someone who was very close to him.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:20 AM

Imo the "Mormons not Christians" is a dead beaten straw man.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:24 AM

View PostUther, on 19 April 2012 - 03:20 AM, said:

Imo the "Mormons not Christians" is a dead beaten straw man.
That may be but it is used by people who wish to score points against the lds church and to teach disinformation.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:30 AM

View PostUther, on 19 April 2012 - 03:20 AM, said:

Imo the "Mormons not Christians" is a dead beaten straw man.
I'm beyond caring what they call us.  They are the ones who are becoming irrelevant.   The term stands for nothing any more- they have no values or standards which are actually observed, nothing to live up to

"Christianity" as a term may die- if it does it will be on them, not us.   We will survive because we understand the dignity of man while they harp incessantly on how degraded humanity is.   You cannot have a transcendent God who cares about his children.   It just doesn't work.   If God is a Father, he cannot be a transcendent Platonic being.

Edited by mfbukowski, 19 April 2012 - 11:33 AM.

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