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#1 Scott Lloyd

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:28 AM

This is making the rounds on the Internet:


I love the glare on the face of the gentleman on the right.

He's a regular. I've seen him there during conference many times before, yelling at police or security and doing general ranting.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:48 AM

The guy on the left did not have to stand right next to the protester.  It's not something I would have done.  But hopefully he got a ticket to get into the Conference Center.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:53 AM

View PostSky, on 03 April 2012 - 09:48 AM, said:

The guy on the left did not have to stand right next to the protester.  It's not something I would have done.  But hopefully he got a ticket to get into the Conference Center.
I'm guessing he walked over and stood there just long enough for somebody to snap a photo, hence the candid look of discomfiture on the face of the protestor. You will notice the ticket seeker is leaning into the frame as though he did not intend to remain on that spot.

Edited by Scott Lloyd, 03 April 2012 - 09:56 AM.

To whom it may concern: If you feel inclined to do anything for or in behalf of me after I die -- or even while I'm living, for that matter -- that is comparable in intent to Mormon vicarious baptisms or other ordinances for the dead, feel free. I would even regard it as a magnanimous gesture.  I would appreciate the thought in any case.
Nobody gives you all the facts all at once, leastwise anti-Mormons and hostile critics. If selective focus or emphasis amounts to deceit, they are the worst of offenders.
If I detest anything as virulently as anti-Mormons obviously detest Mormonism, feel free to label me as "anti-" the thing I detest. I won't mind in the least.
An author who undertakes to criticize publicly another's religious faith and practice has the obligation, in the first instance, to understand it.
... and the anti-Mormon saith unto them: I am no anti-Mormon, for there is none — and thus he whispereth in their ears.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 10:09 AM

As loud and obnoxious as the protesters at General Conference can be, I don’t view them as our worst enemies.  I’ve come to view them as nothing more than an entertaining little side show.  Their protests say far more about themselves than anything about Mormonism.  If they would behave, I would really like for the protesters to be able to attend a session of GC.  But that probably won’t happen.

Does anybody know about how many years the protesters have been protesting at General Conference?
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 10:14 AM

View PostScott Lloyd, on 03 April 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

This is making the rounds on the Internet:


I love the glare on the face of the gentleman on the right.

He's a regular. I've seen him there during conference many times before, yelling at police or security and doing general ranting.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 10:24 AM

View PostSky, on 03 April 2012 - 10:09 AM, said:

As loud and obnoxious as the protesters at General Conference can be, I don’t view them as our worst enemies.  I’ve come to view them as nothing more than an entertaining little side show.  Their protests say far more about themselves than anything about Mormonism.
They strike me as being like schoolyard rowdies taunting other children on the playground. The only real harm they cause is if they can provoke somebody and start a fight. It's clear their intent is not to change the mind of Mormons, or their approach would be different. I think the object is to disrupt the pleasant and sublime feelings that conference-goers have as they go to and from a session. In that, they are — dare I say it? — a tool of the adversary.





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  If they would behave, I would really like for the protesters to be able to attend a session of GC.  But that probably won’t happen.

I would be very surprised to learn they would be interested in that.

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Does anybody know about how many years the protesters have been protesting at General Conference?

Do you mean this particular crop of protesters, or protesters in general?
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Nobody gives you all the facts all at once, leastwise anti-Mormons and hostile critics. If selective focus or emphasis amounts to deceit, they are the worst of offenders.
If I detest anything as virulently as anti-Mormons obviously detest Mormonism, feel free to label me as "anti-" the thing I detest. I won't mind in the least.
An author who undertakes to criticize publicly another's religious faith and practice has the obligation, in the first instance, to understand it.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 10:28 AM

I wonder if the back of the protester's sign says "God hates f@gs".

Same mindset. Different venue.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 10:46 AM

View PostScott Lloyd, on 03 April 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:


Do you mean this particular crop of protesters, or protesters in general?


I was referring to the street-preacher type protesters with large signs that we see around Temple Square and the Conference Center at General Conference.  
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 11:13 AM

View PostSky, on 03 April 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:


I was referring to the street-preacher type protesters with large signs that we see around Temple Square and the Conference Center at General Conference.  
As I recall, they go back to about the late '90s or so. Before that, James White, a career anti-Mormon from California, and cohorts were a regular presence around Temple Square at conference time. But he was not nearly so obnoxious or adversarial. In fact, he soon quit coming after they showed up, because he did not want to be associated with the likes of them.

There have been protesters at conference time going back to the late '70s at least, when some people objected to the Church's opposition to the Equal Rights Amendment.
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Nobody gives you all the facts all at once, leastwise anti-Mormons and hostile critics. If selective focus or emphasis amounts to deceit, they are the worst of offenders.
If I detest anything as virulently as anti-Mormons obviously detest Mormonism, feel free to label me as "anti-" the thing I detest. I won't mind in the least.
An author who undertakes to criticize publicly another's religious faith and practice has the obligation, in the first instance, to understand it.
... and the anti-Mormon saith unto them: I am no anti-Mormon, for there is none — and thus he whispereth in their ears.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 12:03 PM

I remember during the early 70's a women dressed all in white used to stand outside the north gate of Temple Square and hand out anti-Mormon leaflets. If I recall correctly, her story was something along the lines of her having received a vision while taking a shower, and the vision consisted of her being told to marry some general authority (I don't recall which, though the man was married at the time) and together they were to conceive and give birth to Christ as the means for affecting his second coming.

I am not sure when the local taxi driver, who simultaneously handed out anti-Mormon literature and fliers for his perpetual bid for the U.S. presidency, showed up on the scene, but I believe it predated James White by a few years.

But, I could be wrong about the timing of both.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 02:49 PM

Why does the guy on the left have a purse?
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:26 PM

View PostAddamS, on 03 April 2012 - 02:49 PM, said:

Why does the guy on the left have a purse?

It looks like a woven scripture case like I've seen return missionaries from South and Central America carrying.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:28 PM

View PostSky, on 03 April 2012 - 09:48 AM, said:

The guy on the left did not have to stand right next to the protester.  It's not something I would have done.  But hopefully he got a ticket to get into the Conference Center.

The guy on the right did not have to stand right next to the Mormons entering into the Conference Center.  It's not something I would have done.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:40 PM

View PostKevinG, on 03 April 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:


It looks like a woven scripture case like I've seen return missionaries from South and Central America carrying.

Ahhh... so... a "purse"
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:45 PM

View PostAddamS, on 03 April 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:


Ahhh... so... a "purse"
Obviously it's a 'man's bag'.  They are totally different.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:50 PM

View Postbluebell, on 03 April 2012 - 03:45 PM, said:

Obviously it's a 'man's bag'.  They are totally different.

More breath mints... fewer feminine hygiene supplies.  Unless of course he's married - then he's got plenty of both... and a pacifier if he's a Dad.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:23 PM

I surfed the net a few years ago and i came upon a site that had some of the same people that protest every 6 months and it gave there names so when i went to utah i would walk by and say hello ruben and hello brian how are you they sort of stoped yelling and looked at me and wondered who the heck was that that guy, but the key was they stoped yelling i say we all should learn there nemes and say hello as we walk by maby they would feel sort of dumb and stop talking.
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Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:30 PM

View PostDoctrine 612, on 03 April 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

I surfed the net a few years ago and i came upon a site that had some of the same people that protest every 6 months and it gave there names so when i went to utah i would walk by and say hello ruben and hello brian how are you they sort of stoped yelling and looked at me and wondered who the heck was that that guy, but the key was they stoped yelling i say we all should learn there nemes and say hello as we walk by maby they would feel sort of dumb and stop talking.

Not a bad idea. Do you still have that website URL? (You can send it to me in a PM.)
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 12:05 AM

no i just looked up street preachers and saw the same guys from the streets of salt lake and said hey ive seen those guys before.
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 12:12 AM

Hey.I thought missionaries were to go without purse or scrip.Now you tell me they have combined the two. Yikes!


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