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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:48 AM
No real discussion here. I just wanted to see how many people (Scott Lloyd) would jump on this thread to quickly defend the Saints in Zion from my provncial intolerence. Watch the view count.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:53 AM
KevinG, on 15 March 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:
No real discussion here. I just wanted to see how many people (Scott Lloyd) would jump on this thread to quickly defend the Saints in Zion from my provncial intolerence. Watch the view count.
To whom it may concern: If you feel inclined to do anything for or in behalf of me after I die -- or even while I'm living, for that matter -- that is comparable in intent to Mormon vicarious baptisms or other ordinances for the dead, feel free. I would even regard it as a magnanimous gesture. I would appreciate the thought in any case.
Nobody gives you all the facts all at once, leastwise anti-Mormons and hostile critics. If selective focus or emphasis amounts to deceit, they are the worst of offenders.
If I detest anything as virulently as anti-Mormons obviously detest Mormonism, feel free to label me as "anti-" the thing I detest. I won't mind in the least.
An author who undertakes to criticize publicly another's religious faith and practice has the obligation, in the first instance, to understand it.
... and the anti-Mormon saith unto them: I am no anti-Mormon, for there is none — and thus he whispereth in their ears.
Nobody gives you all the facts all at once, leastwise anti-Mormons and hostile critics. If selective focus or emphasis amounts to deceit, they are the worst of offenders.
If I detest anything as virulently as anti-Mormons obviously detest Mormonism, feel free to label me as "anti-" the thing I detest. I won't mind in the least.
An author who undertakes to criticize publicly another's religious faith and practice has the obligation, in the first instance, to understand it.
... and the anti-Mormon saith unto them: I am no anti-Mormon, for there is none — and thus he whispereth in their ears.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:55 AM
That was quick! 
Love you Scott - and all your quircky intermountain friends!
We like to blame Utah for all of the weird Church policy announcements we get here in the mission field. But in truth a lot of those probably stem from events in California.
Love you Scott - and all your quircky intermountain friends!
We like to blame Utah for all of the weird Church policy announcements we get here in the mission field. But in truth a lot of those probably stem from events in California.
Please ask me what I believe before telling me what I believe. Hint- start here: http://lds.org/scriptures/
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:04 PM
KevinG, on 15 March 2012 - 11:55 AM, said:
That was quick!
Love you Scott - and all your quircky intermountain friends!
We like to blame Utah for all of the weird Church policy announcements we get here in the mission field. But in truth a lot of those probably stem from events in California.
Love you Scott - and all your quircky intermountain friends!
We like to blame Utah for all of the weird Church policy announcements we get here in the mission field. But in truth a lot of those probably stem from events in California.
Utah's in the mission field too. Come July, there will be two additional missions in the Salt Lake area alone.
To whom it may concern: If you feel inclined to do anything for or in behalf of me after I die -- or even while I'm living, for that matter -- that is comparable in intent to Mormon vicarious baptisms or other ordinances for the dead, feel free. I would even regard it as a magnanimous gesture. I would appreciate the thought in any case.
Nobody gives you all the facts all at once, leastwise anti-Mormons and hostile critics. If selective focus or emphasis amounts to deceit, they are the worst of offenders.
If I detest anything as virulently as anti-Mormons obviously detest Mormonism, feel free to label me as "anti-" the thing I detest. I won't mind in the least.
An author who undertakes to criticize publicly another's religious faith and practice has the obligation, in the first instance, to understand it.
... and the anti-Mormon saith unto them: I am no anti-Mormon, for there is none — and thus he whispereth in their ears.
Nobody gives you all the facts all at once, leastwise anti-Mormons and hostile critics. If selective focus or emphasis amounts to deceit, they are the worst of offenders.
If I detest anything as virulently as anti-Mormons obviously detest Mormonism, feel free to label me as "anti-" the thing I detest. I won't mind in the least.
An author who undertakes to criticize publicly another's religious faith and practice has the obligation, in the first instance, to understand it.
... and the anti-Mormon saith unto them: I am no anti-Mormon, for there is none — and thus he whispereth in their ears.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:06 PM
Texas Mormons are superior in every way to Utah Mormons.
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LDS doctrine defined. The first bullet point is the key.
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Evolution Primer Evolution does not conflict with LDS doctrine in any way.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:40 PM
BCSpace, on 15 March 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:
Texas Mormons are superior in every way to Utah Mormons.
All are alike unto God, and He is no respecter of persons.
Watch out for Stan!
"Sooner or later, there comes a point in a man’s life when he’s gotta face some facts. And one fact I gotta face is that, whatever it is that women like, I ain’t got it. I chased after enough girls in my life. I went to enough dances. I got hurt enough. I don’t wanna get hurt no more." —Ernest Borgnine as Marty, the title character in the 1955 film. (RIP, Mr. Borgnine.)
"Sooner or later, there comes a point in a man’s life when he’s gotta face some facts. And one fact I gotta face is that, whatever it is that women like, I ain’t got it. I chased after enough girls in my life. I went to enough dances. I got hurt enough. I don’t wanna get hurt no more." —Ernest Borgnine as Marty, the title character in the 1955 film. (RIP, Mr. Borgnine.)
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:54 PM
It is wildly apparent that Utah mormons are from Utah.
Any thing else?
Any thing else?
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:01 PM
Kenngo1969, on 15 March 2012 - 12:40 PM, said:
All are alike unto God, and He is no respecter of persons.
You'll note, however, that God is a respecter of geography.
The Scriptures are replete with references to "choice lands" and "lands that are blessed above all others".
It is self-evident that these are merely coded references to Texas.
On the other hand, we have references to lands that are under various curses or which were "smitten for the Lord's sake".
This clearly refers to their status as "not Texas."
Edited by selek1, 15 March 2012 - 01:07 PM.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:03 PM
Dup.
Edited by selek1, 15 March 2012 - 01:06 PM.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:07 PM
selek1, on 15 March 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:
The Scriptures are replete with references to "choice lands" and "lands that are blessed above all others".
I think God and I have very different tastes. Jerusalem is not that nice and anyone who looks at Missouri and thinks that is a great place for a promised land is either confused or has very different standards.
Twisting God's work into my own hellish, slithering, mutatious...thing.
I support NCMO.
We enter this world naked, screaming, and covered in blood...the fun doesn't have to end there...
I support NCMO.
We enter this world naked, screaming, and covered in blood...the fun doesn't have to end there...
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:10 PM
selek1, on 15 March 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:
This is quite true.
You'll note, however, that he is a respecter of geography.
The Scriptures are replete with references to "choice lands" and "lands that are blessed above all others".
It is self-evident that these are merely coded references to Texas.
You'll note, however, that he is a respecter of geography.
The Scriptures are replete with references to "choice lands" and "lands that are blessed above all others".
It is self-evident that these are merely coded references to Texas.
Sorry, no ... The scriptures don't say that the Lord called his people Zion because they were from New York or Pennsylvania or Ohio or Illinois or Utah or Texas. They say that the Lord called his people Zion because they were of one heart and one mind, and dwelt in righteousness, and there were no poor among them. I don't think the whole we're-the-children-of-Abraham thing flies, whatever locale one is speaking of. Zion is in Texas, and Arizona, and California, and Utah ... and not-Zion is also in Texas, and Arizona, and California, and Utah. The Lord is able to raise up children of Abraham from rocks ... in Texas, and Arizona, and California, and Utah.
Incidentally, I guess the California Mormons among whom I joyfully served as a missionary just forgot to obey that additional Article of Faith about turning their noses up at me because I'm a ... Utah Mormon.
Watch out for Stan!
"Sooner or later, there comes a point in a man’s life when he’s gotta face some facts. And one fact I gotta face is that, whatever it is that women like, I ain’t got it. I chased after enough girls in my life. I went to enough dances. I got hurt enough. I don’t wanna get hurt no more." —Ernest Borgnine as Marty, the title character in the 1955 film. (RIP, Mr. Borgnine.)
"Sooner or later, there comes a point in a man’s life when he’s gotta face some facts. And one fact I gotta face is that, whatever it is that women like, I ain’t got it. I chased after enough girls in my life. I went to enough dances. I got hurt enough. I don’t wanna get hurt no more." —Ernest Borgnine as Marty, the title character in the 1955 film. (RIP, Mr. Borgnine.)
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:11 PM
The Nehor, on 15 March 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:
I think God and I have very different tastes. Jerusalem is not that nice and anyone who looks at Missouri and thinks that is a great place for a promised land is either confused or has very different standards.
By way of contrast, though, you'll notice we've never caught any of the Apostles singing, "I Wish They All Could Be California Girls".
There is wisdom to be found in that silence.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:12 PM
Bikeemikey, on 15 March 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:
It is wildly apparent that Utah mormons are from Utah.
Any thing else?
Any thing else?
To whom it may concern: If you feel inclined to do anything for or in behalf of me after I die -- or even while I'm living, for that matter -- that is comparable in intent to Mormon vicarious baptisms or other ordinances for the dead, feel free. I would even regard it as a magnanimous gesture. I would appreciate the thought in any case.
Nobody gives you all the facts all at once, leastwise anti-Mormons and hostile critics. If selective focus or emphasis amounts to deceit, they are the worst of offenders.
If I detest anything as virulently as anti-Mormons obviously detest Mormonism, feel free to label me as "anti-" the thing I detest. I won't mind in the least.
An author who undertakes to criticize publicly another's religious faith and practice has the obligation, in the first instance, to understand it.
... and the anti-Mormon saith unto them: I am no anti-Mormon, for there is none — and thus he whispereth in their ears.
Nobody gives you all the facts all at once, leastwise anti-Mormons and hostile critics. If selective focus or emphasis amounts to deceit, they are the worst of offenders.
If I detest anything as virulently as anti-Mormons obviously detest Mormonism, feel free to label me as "anti-" the thing I detest. I won't mind in the least.
An author who undertakes to criticize publicly another's religious faith and practice has the obligation, in the first instance, to understand it.
... and the anti-Mormon saith unto them: I am no anti-Mormon, for there is none — and thus he whispereth in their ears.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:13 PM
selek1, on 15 March 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:
A wise and salient observation my friend.
By way of contrast, though, you'll notice we've never caught any of the Apostles singing, "I Wish They All Could Be California Girls".
There is wisdom to be found in that silence.
By way of contrast, though, you'll notice we've never caught any of the Apostles singing, "I Wish They All Could Be California Girls".
There is wisdom to be found in that silence.
Is said wisdom that the Twelve all have Asian Fever?
Twisting God's work into my own hellish, slithering, mutatious...thing.
I support NCMO.
We enter this world naked, screaming, and covered in blood...the fun doesn't have to end there...
I support NCMO.
We enter this world naked, screaming, and covered in blood...the fun doesn't have to end there...
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:14 PM
Kenngo1969, on 15 March 2012 - 01:10 PM, said:
The Lord is able to raise up children of Abraham from rocks ...
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:16 PM
selek1, on 15 March 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:
A wise and salient observation my friend.
By way of contrast, though, you'll notice we've never caught any of the Apostles singing, "I Wish They All Could Be California Girls".
There is wisdom to be found in that silence.
By way of contrast, though, you'll notice we've never caught any of the Apostles singing, "I Wish They All Could Be California Girls".
There is wisdom to be found in that silence.
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And girl for girl,
They've got the cutest of the western states.
They've got the cutest of the western states.
To whom it may concern: If you feel inclined to do anything for or in behalf of me after I die -- or even while I'm living, for that matter -- that is comparable in intent to Mormon vicarious baptisms or other ordinances for the dead, feel free. I would even regard it as a magnanimous gesture. I would appreciate the thought in any case.
Nobody gives you all the facts all at once, leastwise anti-Mormons and hostile critics. If selective focus or emphasis amounts to deceit, they are the worst of offenders.
If I detest anything as virulently as anti-Mormons obviously detest Mormonism, feel free to label me as "anti-" the thing I detest. I won't mind in the least.
An author who undertakes to criticize publicly another's religious faith and practice has the obligation, in the first instance, to understand it.
... and the anti-Mormon saith unto them: I am no anti-Mormon, for there is none — and thus he whispereth in their ears.
Nobody gives you all the facts all at once, leastwise anti-Mormons and hostile critics. If selective focus or emphasis amounts to deceit, they are the worst of offenders.
If I detest anything as virulently as anti-Mormons obviously detest Mormonism, feel free to label me as "anti-" the thing I detest. I won't mind in the least.
An author who undertakes to criticize publicly another's religious faith and practice has the obligation, in the first instance, to understand it.
... and the anti-Mormon saith unto them: I am no anti-Mormon, for there is none — and thus he whispereth in their ears.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:16 PM
BCSpace, on 15 March 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:
Texas Mormons are superior in every way to Utah Mormons.
"Remember kids! In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant." Stephen Colbert
"Because some people need to be dealt with reality, they have been coddled their whole lives, and when they're morons I have the guts and the compassion to let them know that they're morons." Mark Levin.
"Vance is truly the devil's right hand man and his multiplicity of sins testifies to that." & "Your heart is truly filled with evil, a true thistle through and through." Echo of the "truth in love ministry".
"Because some people need to be dealt with reality, they have been coddled their whole lives, and when they're morons I have the guts and the compassion to let them know that they're morons." Mark Levin.
"Vance is truly the devil's right hand man and his multiplicity of sins testifies to that." & "Your heart is truly filled with evil, a true thistle through and through." Echo of the "truth in love ministry".
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:17 PM
The Nehor, on 15 March 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:
Is said wisdom that the Twelve all have Asian Fever?
Having never heard the term "Asian Fever", I did a quick Google.
(In the interests of accuracy, it was actually Bing- I don't care for Google's new "record every key stroke for your own good" security policy).
The first six results were references to Larry Flynt productions....which I doubt is what you meant.
Is this Asian Fever similar in any way to Boogie Fever, Disco Fever, or Saturay Night Fever?
Cuz I'm having a really hard time picturing President Monson in the white tux, black shirt, and gold-chains popularized in that era.
Edited by selek1, 15 March 2012 - 01:24 PM.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:22 PM
Innocently peeks in. My work is done here. Bwahahahahahaha!
Please ask me what I believe before telling me what I believe. Hint- start here: http://lds.org/scriptures/
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:25 PM
KevinG, on 15 March 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:
Innocently peeks in. My work is done here. Bwahahahahahaha!
Innocent, my eye!
There is a vast difference between "not guilty" and "innocent".
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