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#2
Posted 09 October 2011 - 09:11 AM
Best were the Semmel rolls they used in Austria...
Don't know about Cinnamon, though. While D&C 27 states "it mattereth not what ye shall eat or what ye shall drink when ye partake of the Sacrament, if it so be that ye do it with an eye single to my glory" if there were no other bread available than a Cinnamon bread, it would be acceptable, but just to use it "for the fun of it" might be doing it for a reason other than for "an eye single to my glory"
Had a similar discussion as Deacon or Teacher as to whether we could use grape juice or something else, since it mattereth not, but was taught by a wise leader that since we were doing it just because we could, we needed to look closer at our motives.
Don't know about Cinnamon, though. While D&C 27 states "it mattereth not what ye shall eat or what ye shall drink when ye partake of the Sacrament, if it so be that ye do it with an eye single to my glory" if there were no other bread available than a Cinnamon bread, it would be acceptable, but just to use it "for the fun of it" might be doing it for a reason other than for "an eye single to my glory"
Had a similar discussion as Deacon or Teacher as to whether we could use grape juice or something else, since it mattereth not, but was taught by a wise leader that since we were doing it just because we could, we needed to look closer at our motives.
#3
Posted 09 October 2011 - 10:43 AM
I say use whats available and is plentiful enough for the entire ward. Oh and that wont have things in it that might trigger allergies if possible.
Elder Dallin Oaks, â??I find some wisdom in liberalism, some wisdom in conservatism, and much truth in intellectualism-but I find no salvation in any of them.â? â??Criticism,â? Ensign, Feb. 1987, 68
#4
Posted 10 October 2011 - 01:41 PM
Whiskeypete, on 09 October 2011 - 09:11 AM, said:
Best were the Semmel rolls they used in Austria...
Don't know about Cinnamon, though. While D&C 27 states "it mattereth not what ye shall eat or what ye shall drink when ye partake of the Sacrament, if it so be that ye do it with an eye single to my glory" if there were no other bread available than a Cinnamon bread, it would be acceptable, but just to use it "for the fun of it" might be doing it for a reason other than for "an eye single to my glory"
Had a similar discussion as Deacon or Teacher as to whether we could use grape juice or something else, since it mattereth not, but was taught by a wise leader that since we were doing it just because we could, we needed to look closer at our motives.
Don't know about Cinnamon, though. While D&C 27 states "it mattereth not what ye shall eat or what ye shall drink when ye partake of the Sacrament, if it so be that ye do it with an eye single to my glory" if there were no other bread available than a Cinnamon bread, it would be acceptable, but just to use it "for the fun of it" might be doing it for a reason other than for "an eye single to my glory"
Had a similar discussion as Deacon or Teacher as to whether we could use grape juice or something else, since it mattereth not, but was taught by a wise leader that since we were doing it just because we could, we needed to look closer at our motives.
Very true. Sometimes the simpliest and most modest of symbols used is more pleasing to God than getting all fancy. After all, church isn't a TV show called Pimp Your Ordinance. Less is more.
Now as for white vs wheat, well I know some see symbolic value in white bread only, while others say that wheat is healthier. I think arguing about what you use as Sacrament kind of detracts from it. I don't think the bread that the Savior used was Wonder Bread, but if Wonder was what you could get, then that's what you use.
I must have the makings of a prophet because everytime I open my mouth, I'm ignored.
#5
Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:06 AM
Personally I prefer wheat but the symbolism is the most important. I do wish we still used wine as the Church did up until prohibition but i suppose it would be cost prohibitive now a day.
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#6
Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:53 AM
Saints Alive, on 12 October 2011 - 07:06 AM, said:
Personally I prefer wheat but the symbolism is the most important. I do wish we still used wine as the Church did up until prohibition but i suppose it would be cost prohibitive now a day.
Which church are you referring to?
The LDS Church has used water for the sacrament since 1830 http://lds.org/scrip...-2?lang=eng#1-2
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#7
Posted 12 October 2011 - 11:53 AM
Not exclusively, There were Church owned Wineries into the 20th century.
"You have not converted a man because you have silenced him" - John Morley
"A fool with a tool is still a fool" - Unknown
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"A fool with a tool is still a fool" - Unknown
http://mormonthoughandopinion.blogspot.com/
#8
Posted 12 October 2011 - 12:00 PM
Here is an excerpt
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So why are Mormons today teetotalers, when their pioneer ancestors weren't? The fact that early Latter-day Saints regarded the Word of Wisdom differently than Mormons do today isn't evidence of hypocrisy but of historical change. Here are some reasons:
- It allied Mormons with the temperance movement. In the early twentieth century, American culture began examining food and health issues more strictly, with alcohol being a particular concern. The LDS Church was in favor of the temperance measures of the day and began substituting water for wine in sacrament meetings in July 1906. Fifteen years later, the Church made strict adherence to the Word of Wisdom a requirement for temple admittance, with no exceptions.
- Young encouraged some early Latter-day Saints to begin vineyards in Utah, sending one group of Swiss immigrants to southern Utah to start the Dixie Wine Mission. Their vineyards were very successful, and they sold wine all over the Western United States in the late nineteenth century. Young had no tolerance for drunkenness, vulgar behavior, or the domestic violence that sometimes resulted from alcohol abuse, but he and other Latter-day Saints in the late nineteenth century did permit a small intake of wine or Danish beer.
"You have not converted a man because you have silenced him" - John Morley
"A fool with a tool is still a fool" - Unknown
http://mormonthoughandopinion.blogspot.com/
"A fool with a tool is still a fool" - Unknown
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#9
Posted 12 October 2011 - 01:14 PM
Did the church really continue to use wine for the Sacrament up until prohibition?
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#10
Posted 12 October 2011 - 05:22 PM
DaddyG, on 12 October 2011 - 01:14 PM, said:
Did the church really continue to use wine for the Sacrament up until prohibition?
"You have not converted a man because you have silenced him" - John Morley
"A fool with a tool is still a fool" - Unknown
http://mormonthoughandopinion.blogspot.com/
"A fool with a tool is still a fool" - Unknown
http://mormonthoughandopinion.blogspot.com/
#11
Posted 16 October 2011 - 08:02 AM
Bread is Bread doesn't matter what kind it is. It is a symbol of the Body of thy son!
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