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The Bible Vs. The Book Of Mormon


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#101 Wants2know

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:16 PM

I will have to go back and read all these posts.  I just watched the film, and it has shaken me a bit.  Maybe I should have researched this before I joined.  Does the lack of archeological evidence bother anyone else?

#102 Brant Gardner

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:57 PM

View PostWants2know, on 27 August 2011 - 12:16 PM, said:

I will have to go back and read all these posts.  I just watched the film, and it has shaken me a bit.  Maybe I should have researched this before I joined.  Does the lack of archeological evidence bother anyone else?
There is no reason that you can't do the research now. The reasons for joining the church will remain the same. What you will learn is that films such as this one can be artfully slanted to make things appear to be different than they are. In addition to the posts in this thread, you might want to read the review that prompted the thread. Then, you can move to the rather substantial body of evidence that belies the illusion that there is a "lack of archaeological evidence."

#103 Kenngo1969

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:12 PM

View PostWants2know, on 27 August 2011 - 12:16 PM, said:

I will have to go back and read all these posts.  I just watched the film, and it has shaken me a bit.  Maybe I should have researched this before I joined.  Does the lack of archeological evidence bother anyone else?

Accepting, for the sake of discussion, your contention that archaelogical evidence for the Book of Mormon is lacking, I might suggest that you reread Alma 32 then ask yourself, in light of what Alma says, why you need archaeological evidence to support your faith.  I wish you well.
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#104 Kenngo1969

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:12 PM

Duplicate!

Edited by Kenngo1969, 01 September 2011 - 05:14 PM.

Watch out for Stan!

"Sooner or later, there comes a point in a man’s life when he’s gotta face some facts.  And one fact I gotta face is that, whatever it is that women like, I ain’t got it. I chased after enough girls in my life. I went to enough dances. I got hurt enough. I don’t wanna get hurt no more." —Ernest Borgnine as Marty, the title character in the 1955 film.  (RIP, Mr. Borgnine.)

#105 Kenngo1969

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:12 PM

Duplicate, duplicate!

Edited by Kenngo1969, 01 September 2011 - 05:15 PM.

Watch out for Stan!

"Sooner or later, there comes a point in a man’s life when he’s gotta face some facts.  And one fact I gotta face is that, whatever it is that women like, I ain’t got it. I chased after enough girls in my life. I went to enough dances. I got hurt enough. I don’t wanna get hurt no more." —Ernest Borgnine as Marty, the title character in the 1955 film.  (RIP, Mr. Borgnine.)

#106 calmoriah

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 02:33 PM

View PostWants2know, on 27 August 2011 - 12:16 PM, said:

I will have to go back and read all these posts.  I just watched the film, and it has shaken me a bit.  Maybe I should have researched this before I joined.  Does the lack of archeological evidence bother anyone else?

W2K, don't forget that if there are questions that you haven't had answered with the review or whatever else you've looked at, you can always ask about specifics here in the Social Hall as you've done in the past or from FAIR.  Brant hangs out there too, so while on rare occasions I've seen him miss a question here, I don't believe I've seen him miss a question there plus there are several others very good in this area there as well.

Here is the contact webpage, just check the top box:

http://www.fairlds.org/contact.php

And of course you have lots of friends on the board here who, I am sure, wouldn't mind talking to you privately if you would prefer that type of conversation, myself included.  

If you enjoy videos, you might want to watch Journey of Faith.  There is a clip available here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WslRp5CnC1Q and you can find other clips from the video on that page as well, look for the videos posted by fairlds.org (I believe the entire video is available in parts on youtube).
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Posted 05 September 2011 - 04:48 AM

View PostWants2know, on 27 August 2011 - 12:16 PM, said:

I will have to go back and read all these posts.  I just watched the film, and it has shaken me a bit.  Maybe I should have researched this before I joined.  Does the lack of archeological evidence bother anyone else?

There are a hundred reasons to leave the church, and only one reason to stay.

If this film bothers you so much, if your testimony is so easily shaken by the enemies of the church, I suggest you spend your time reading and studying the BOM and stop wasting your time allowing the antimormons to poison your mind.

Archeology and the BOM has been discussed extensively here on this forum.  This film has been extensively reviewed here in this thread, but I don't think you are ready for this stuff.  Just be prepared that these producers of this film are willing to lie and distort to destroy your faith.  They have been invited several times to join the discussion here to defend what they have done..... and have refused.  

Anyway, take my advice and ise your time to study the BOM.

Edited by cdowis, 05 September 2011 - 04:51 AM.


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Posted 19 September 2011 - 01:49 AM

View PostWants2know, on 27 August 2011 - 12:16 PM, said:

I will have to go back and read all these posts.  I just watched the film, and it has shaken me a bit.  Maybe I should have researched this before I joined.  Does the lack of aarchaeologicalevidence bother anyone else?

Hello Wants,

For some archarchaeological evidence is paramount.  Of course, none of these individuals use the exact same standard for evaluating other things spiritual in nature.  The Bible, for example, is a good place to start.  I have never met a single critic or anti-Mormon of the LDS Church that is willing to use the same standard of evaluation for the Bible that they use for the Book of Mormon.  To do so would be anathema because they would be forced to toss out the Bible.

Too often they use the flimsy reality that Jerusalem exists therefore the Bible is archaeologically viable.  Do you know how many things in the Bible cannot be proved by archeology?

Not being able to "prove" the reality of the Bible and the Book of Mormon is meaningless.  My faith tells me it is true and that one day all mankind will know of a surety of the truthfulness of both books of scripture.  Do not give up on using reason and logic in research, but you must come to a better understanding where reason cannot answer the greater questions of life and faith necessarily takes over and does so.

Never, ever fall for the duplicitous nature of critics and more often that of the anti-Mormon.  Their sophistry is built as a house of cards and is incapable of bearing up under closer scrutiny; one which they necessarily must abandon in order to maintain their own faith.
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