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David Bokovoy

Communal Sin in the Bible

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OK, I get it. Those were stupid questions.

Gaia....have you considered Asherah as an alternative? Or are you thinking specifically of a goddess who was equated with the earth?
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OK, I get it. Those were stupid questions.

No, they were superb observations, they just got lost in all the off-topic nonsense. BTW, couldn't find Gaia or Earth in Moses 7:10.

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volgadon, he is talking of the Enoch's relationship with the Earth, I believe. The earth is sorta thought of like a person... with a personality 0.o.

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I know, but 7:10 doesn't mention it at all.

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Gaia....have you considered Asherah as an alternative? Or are you thinking specifically of a goddess who was equated with the earth?

No, they were superb observations, they just got lost in all the off-topic nonsense. BTW, couldn't find Gaia or Earth in Moses 7:10.

volgadon, he is talking of the Enoch's relationship with the Earth, I believe. The earth is sorta thought of like a person... with a personality 0.o.

I meant vs. 48, not sure why I wrote vs. 10. She's not named there, but the description matches perfectly. I'm more comfortable thinking in ANE or Celtic terms than GrecoRoman ones. The classical world feels kind of "preppy?" to me."

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I meant vs. 48, not sure why I wrote vs. 10. She's not named there, but the description matches perfectly. I'm more comfortable thinking in ANE or Celtic terms than GrecoRoman ones. The classical world feels kind of "preppy?" to me."

I am trying to understand what you mean exactly, someone who is envisioned as the earth herself as is Gaia or someone who is a personification of the earth like Rhea?

There is the mother goddess Cybele, is that the type of goddess you are thinking of? :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybele

IIRC, the earth in Egypt thought was male (Geb), the sky female (Nut)....one of the few that didn't have reverse (IIRC, this is because of the desert location, most saw the sky as male which impregnates earth with rain...since it didn't rain all that much in Egypt that connection wasn't made).

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OK, I get it. Those were stupid questions.

Hey Friend,

These really were great questions. I'm afraid this is what happens when these thread become filled up with bickering, good questions/observations get lost. Regarding your first point, I believe your observation hits the nail on the head, and I brought up the quotes by President Packer and Joseph Smith either earlier in this thread or in the one on Social Justice; can't remember.

Your second point, it's a great question, but I'm afraid that I'm not familiar with the term.

Best,

--DB

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I am trying to understand what you mean exactly, someone who is envisioned as the earth herself as is Gaia or someone who is a personification of the earth like Rhea?

There is the mother goddess Cybele, is that the type of goddess you are thinking of? :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybele

IIRC, the earth in Egypt thought was male (Geb), the sky female (Nut)....one of the few that didn't have reverse (IIRC, this is because of the desert location, most saw the sky as male which impregnates earth with rain...since it didn't rain all that much in Egypt that connection wasn't made).

I'm looking for other names for the Genius or spirit of the Earth, Herself. If I understand, correctly, Asherah/Heavenly Mother (the goddes/creatrix of the entire universe) and Rhea/Danu (the mother of the various tribal/nature deities) have different roles. If this needs to go any farther, we can start a different thread.

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Heaven and Earth were regarded as deities in the ANE, David has written about that.

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I'm looking for other names for the Genius or spirit of the Earth, Herself. If I understand, correctly, Asherah/Heavenly Mother (the goddes/creatrix of the entire universe) and Rhea/Danu (the mother of the various tribal/nature deities) have different roles. If this needs to go any farther, we can start a different thread.

Here is a list of Hebrew Goddesses ( http://en.wikipedia...._Hebrew_Goddess ), you can check to see if any match what you are thinking....I don't remember in my mythology readings coming across anything similiar to Gaia for Hebrew. Most often I think she pops up in mythologies where the primordial Father God is also nature, though perhaps a different aspect like Sky. I don't see Yahweh and El as being that type of Father God so they would not have a female counterpart similar to Gaia.

Here is a list of Canaanite gods for you to check as well: http://en.wikipedia....naanite_deities

Looks like Kishar may be what you are looking for: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kishar

Also go down to "in various cultures" for some candidates http://en.wikipedia....h_mother#Celtic

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