It seems like i read somewhere that anciently (around the time that Job was recorded), the Hebrew religion did not espouse the belief of a Heaven (as a reward for the righteous) and a literal hell (for the wicked) but I can't remember enough to know that I'm not just making that up.
Any well-informed people out there who know? It's just for a discussion I'm having in one of my online classes for school.
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Ancient Jewish beliefs about Heaven and Hell
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, Jan 12 2011 02:49 PM
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 02:49 PM
"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 06:04 PM
I don't know... but I'm pretty sure volgadon would know... try PMing him... he's an expert on these sorta things =D.
...my religion is built on the belief system and I believe that God will always find a way to make things just and fair even though it seems impossible. I accept this axiom without proof because I believe and hope that it must be true and in my heart I know it's true. That' s my testimony... -- Ajax18
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[On what God will say of one's own spiritual valiance]... I'd be content if He could just say to me, "Well, you weren't completely worthless." - Nathair
As anyone who has ever been around a cat for any length of time well knows, cats have enormous patience with the limitations of the human kind. -- Cleveland Armory ... I have studied many philosophers and many cats. The wisdom of cats is infinitely superior. -- Hippolyte Taine
[On what God will say of one's own spiritual valiance]... I'd be content if He could just say to me, "Well, you weren't completely worthless." - Nathair
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 06:31 PM
That's a great idea...
"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 06:45 PM
The Israelites believed that all the dead went to Sheol where they are seperated from God. It can be translated as Hell or Hades. This corresponds with the belief among some Christians about Jesus' harrowing of Hell, and the statement that "the gates of hell will not prevail against them". Jesus before being resurrected taught the dead to allow them to progress.
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 07:53 PM
mapman, on 12 January 2011 - 06:45 PM, said:
The Israelites believed that all the dead went to Sheol where they are seperated from God. It can be translated as Hell or Hades. This corresponds with the belief among some Christians about Jesus' harrowing of Hell, and the statement that "the gates of hell will not prevail against them". Jesus before being resurrected taught the dead to allow them to progress.
"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 12:29 AM
bluebell, on 12 January 2011 - 07:53 PM, said:
So it didn't matter whether someone had been righteous or wicked during life, everyone went to the same place?
The above is an image of a silver amulet found in one of the tombs at Ketef Hinnom (Gehenna, coincidentally) in Jerusalem.
Amulet 1:Yahw[eh] ... grea[t ] ... the covenant, and graciousness to those who love [him] and those who keep ... [the] blessing more than any [sna]re and more than Evil. For redemption is in him. For Yahweh is our restorer [and] rock. May Yahweh bless you [and] keep you. May Yahweh make [his] face [sh]ine ...
Amulet 2:May [X] be blessed by Yahwe[h], the helper and the rebuker of [e]vil: May Yahweh bless you and keep you. May Yah[w]eh make his face shine [upo]n you and grant you p[ea]ce.
The italics form part of the Priestly Blessing of Numbers 6:24-26. These amulets request God to bless and protect the bearers, who happen to be dead.
Everyone may go to the same miserable, dreary place that is Sheol, but YHWH can bless the members of his covenant, keep them from evil, bless them, redeem and restore them.
Calba Savua's Orchard
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I assure you that it is you that is ignorant of ancient Judaism. Read the Bible instead of listening to your teachers who appose [sic] the bible. -Echo
i REALLY NEVER NEW YOU WAS A UNLEARNED PERSON. -Lucy Ann Harmon, a facebook anti-Mormon
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