Woody Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 We are studying the LDS Standard Works, a chapter a day.Please post your thoughts on this chapter, commentary written by others on topics related to this chapter, related passages from other chapters, etc. We all benefit from discussion.As a stimulus to study, see if you can figure out why this quotation is relevant to this chapter:You cannot be one thing and effectively teach another. -L. Tom Perry======================Luke 31 Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene,2 Annas and Caiaphas being the high priests, the word of God came unto John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness.3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;4 As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.5 Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth;6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.9 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.10 And the people asked him, saying, What shall we do then?11 He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise.12 Then came also publicans to be baptized, and said unto him, Master, what shall we do?13 And he said unto them, Exact no more than that which is appointed you.14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages.15 And as the people were in expectation, and all men mused in their hearts of John, whether he were the Christ, or not;16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.18 And many other things in his exhortation preached he unto the people.19 But Herod the tetrarch, being reproved by him for Herodias his brother Philip's wife, and for all the evils which Herod had done,20 Added yet this above all, that he shut up John in prison.21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,24 Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,25 Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge,26 Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda,27 Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri,28 Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er,29 Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi,30 Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim,31 Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David,32 Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson,33 Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,34 Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor,35 Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala,36 Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech,37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. 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Zakuska Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.I find this verse pretty intresting given that Paul has this to say on Mars Hill. Acts 17 22 Link to comment
Maya Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 2 Annas and Caiaphas being the high priests, the word of God came unto John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness.So Jesus came to him or he had a vision?Captain ... interesting point! Why mention that about Adam? All people are children of God but Jesus is the only begotten.... Maybe Adam was a son, but not begotten and through Adam we all are Children of god... physically?? Link to comment
Smith Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 As a stimulus to study, see if you can figure out why this quotation is relevant to this chapter:You cannot be one thing and effectively teach another. -L. Tom Perry======================Luke 3...In trying to answer the question I would say that we have 3 main characters in this chapter. John, Jesus and Herod.It starts out talking about preaching repentance. Two of these characters were living very worthily and the third, shall we say, wasn't. I get the impression that John was well loved, he had lots of followers and they wondered whether he was the promised Messiah. Clearly he lived in such a manner as to suggest a very holy person, or a very penitent person.Even though he didn't feel worthy to baptise the Saviour he must have been because Jesus came to him for baptism. If he hadn't been penitent I think Jesus would not have sought him out for baptism. Many others were baptised by John too. I think if he hadn't been as he had taught then he wouldn't have had the success he had baptising many and he wouldn't have been able to bless the Saviour as this would have put a negative light on the Saviour right at the very beginning of his ministry.At least thats how I see your question being answered from this chapter. Link to comment
Woody Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. This brings us back to Genesis 5: Gen. 5:1-3 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth... Notice very carefully the wording in v.3: that Adam begat a son Seth in his likeness (b-damut-o in the Hebrew) and like his image (k-tzalem-o). In v.1, God created man in his likeness (b-damut). Back in Genesis 1:26, God decided to create man in his image (b-tzalem-no) and like his likeness (k-damut-no). In 1:27, he did create man in his image (twice, b-tzelem-o b-tzelem.) These are the same words. The inference is strong that God created man in the same way that Adam begat Seth. And here in Luke 3 we're told the same thing: that Adam was indeed the son of God. When the scriptures are studied closely, they testify that God is our Father, the same kind of being that we are, essentially. Altho we are weak, mortal, sinful, etc. and He's not, He is literally our Father and we look like Him. When we move away from the scriptures it's decided by committees of celibate priests that God couldn't be similar to us; but rather He's a vast "spirit", bigger than the universe, with no form, shape, or likeness at all. Wood Link to comment
Woody Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 ...It starts out talking about preaching repentance. Two of these characters were living very worthily and the third, shall we say, wasn't. I get the impression that John was well loved, he had lots of followers ... Jesus came to him for baptism. If he hadn't been penitent I think Jesus would not have sought him out for baptism. ... he wouldn't have had the success he had baptising many ... At least thats how I see your question being answered from this chapter.Well, that's way better than I could have possibly worded it. I'd say that's the most beautiful, glorious thing I've read all year. Wood Link to comment
Smith Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Well, that's way better than I could have possibly worded it. I'd say that's the most beautiful, glorious thing I've read all year. Hehehe, yes, a whole 6 hours long!Anyway, I enjoyed your follow up post too. It gave me a new angle of thought on the question which I hadn't considered before. Thanks. Link to comment
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