AoF3: We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
I absolutely believe that statement. I think it perfectly outlines the order and priority of grace based salvation by means of faith and obidience.
1) We are saved by the atonement -- grace -- of Jesus Christ. Not through our own ability to atone for any of our sins.
2) To have the atonment apply in our lives we must follow the Gospel and its requirement. This means obeying all of God's commandments and performing the ordinances required by God. As has been explained in detail in other threads, these are the works of the faithful. Works that do not have saving power in and of themselves...but they are the required acts of true believers that will merit eternal life through the atoning grace of Jesus Christ.
I believe that the third article of faith is completely consistent with the Bible. As per the recent lengthy discussion, I do not believe that the spirit and intent of this Article of Faith is not at odds with Catholic concepts regarding the interplay of faith/grace/and works.
In fact, the third article of faith seems to be competley consistent with how the Catholic Doors Ministry summarizes the Catholic requirments for Salvation. They declare that to be saved, a person must:
This is a law of the Gospel...a commandment...a work.
Be properly baptized, and...
This is an ordinance of the Gospel...a law...a work.
Die in a state of righteousness.
This is covers an entire host of laws and ordiances of the Gospel. The Catholic Doors Ministry decribes this part of the Catholic salvation requirements as a baptised adult "who is in a state of grace because he/she"...
...has received the Sacrament of Confession on a regular basis and...
...received the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist during Sunday attendance at the Holy Mass as required by the Precept of the Church, (Canon Law # 1247)
The Catholic Doors Ministry also support the notion of humand being responsible for believers doing all they can to be worthy of salvation. They declare:
To receive the free gift of salvation, Catholics must until their last breath, maintain the righteousness that they received during the Sacrament of Baptism. Ongoing righteousness is maintained through the reception of the Sacraments of Confession and the Holy Eucharist.
Regarding the requirements to obey the laws of the Gospel, the Catholic Doors Ministry declaresL
Within the Catechism of the Catholic Church, it states, "If (mortal sin) is not redeemed by repentance and God's forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ's kingdom and the eternal death of hell, for our freedom has the power to make choices for ever, with no turning back." (C.C.C. # 1861)
Johnny: What do you have to do to live with our heavenly Father?
I think that the Third Article of Faith pretty much covers it as a general summary.
In turn, I ask Johhny...
According to the Catholic Church, what does a believer have do to live with our Heavenly Father?
Obey the laws of the Gospel? (Avoid grave and mortal sins)
Perform the other required sacraments (ordinances) of the Gospel such as confirmation, confession, the Holy Eucharist, Last Rtes, etc.
Are those all requirements for believing Catholics to be saved? Do you believe that these laws must be obeyed and these sacraments (ordinances) performed in faith to be saved by grace?
If so, how is your belief substanatively different from my interpretation of 2 Nephie 25:23 and the Third Article of Faith?
Edited by Bsix, 31 December 2008 - 11:52 AM.