Do you think that Bishops and other leaders who believe such things (e.g., some of JS' claimed revelations were not revelations at all) should get patted on the back for being "honest" by sharing those beliefs with the members over whom they have stewardship?
Honesty is always the best policy. Let the chips fall where they may. What is life if it is disguised in layers of deceit and dishonesty? It's not real. I'll take real and ugly any day over artificial prettiness.
Honesty is always the best policy. Let the chips fall where they may. What is life if it is disguised in layers of deceit and dishonesty? It's not real. I'll take real and ugly any day over artificial prettiness.
Yeah, but I imagine that the SP would rather this honesty not take place with the membership of the ward, but that it take place with him (the SP) so that he can release the Bishop forthwith, as would likely be the case. I do not think there is room in the Church, as it stands as an organization at this moment, for Bishops who believe JS made up revelations. I think it was Pres Hinckley who said we are free to think these things, but not to share them with others?
Do you think that Bishops and other leaders who believe such things (e.g., some of JS' claimed revelations were not revelations at all) should get patted on the back for being "honest" by sharing those beliefs with the members over whom they have stewardship?
Why wouldn't it be? At least he was honest, or maybe he was probing, or we just don't know all the details of that part. bishops' thoughts. Being the perfect saint does not necessarily make you the easiest person to reach out to... that is for sure.
I just don't get the whole problem with polygamy. Quite simple really:
-It was practiced by Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David with the approval of the Lord.
-The Lord says in the BoM that it is okay if approved by Him.
-It is a revelation in the D&C through Joseph Smith, which is part of the LDS canon.
So, either the Lord has polygamy as an eternal principle or not and/or Joseph Smith is a prophet or not and established the church again in the latter-days. Not everything in the Gospel is easy, but it is true or it is not. Polygamy is a part of the doctrine.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude
better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace.
We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand
that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity
forget that you were our countrymen." --Samuel Adams
I turned in all my guns and all I got was these lousy leg irons.....
I just don't get the whole problem with polygamy. Quite simple really:
-It was practiced by Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David with the approval of the Lord.
-The Lord says in the BoM that it is okay if approved by Him.
-It is a revelation in the D&C through Joseph Smith, which is part of the LDS canon.
So, either the Lord has polygamy as an eternal principle or not and/or Joseph Smith is a prophet or not and established the church again in the latter-days. Not everything in the Gospel is easy, but it is true or it is not. Polygamy is a part of the doctrine.
Well, some of females state the following: "If I have to be one of several wives of my husband in order to be in the highest degree of glory, then I do not want to be there." (I am sure many have heard this statement. Some males may have the same view re having several wives, but certainly less )
So, if we want people to join the Church and part of the "sell" (forgive the term, but you know what I mean) is the "prize", we want the prize to be attractive. If exaltation meant living in what one would personally consider to be a "hellish" state (as some view the idea of living in a plural marriage situation), then exalation and that which leads to it would probably not be the chosen path for such one.
Thus, when one reads certain statements by certain prophets concluding that all who reach the highest degree of the CK will practice plural marriage, if one holds the aforementioned view of plural marriage ("hellish" state), one is likely to say "no thanks" to the LDS Gospel. Accordingly, you have one of the "problem[s]" with polygamy.
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mms, on Sep 28 2007, 11:57 AM, said:
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