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  1. I live in Texas, so its not like I get BYU radio down here. Often I listen to the Christian radio station and my favorite guy is John MacArthur. Yes he is a Trinitarian (and leans towards Calvinism to boot), but he also often gives great insights into Biblical context (historical and textual). This week he spoke about Sexuality and Marriage in the Bible, and I found much of what he said to be insightful. Here are the links: http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/1827/Christian-Liberty-and-Sexual-Freedom http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/1828/To-Marry-or-Not-to-Marry -Stephen
  2. This is one for the scholars here, and I am asking because I genuinely don't know the answer. It seems to me there is a conflict in the Hebrew scriptures between on one hand seeing God as Jehovah- the "Great I AM"- the self-existent one beyond whom there is no other, and the idea of the Council of the Gods. I know that monotheism seems to have evolved over time, but this idea of "I Am", the name of Jehovah as we hear it in the story of Moses, conflicts with seeing God as we might see him after reading about on one hand the Council of Gods, and the King Follette Discourse, where God is presented as one of a string of other similar beings. So did the Hebrews see God more as the Great I Am, or as Joseph saw him in the King Follette Discourse? Or did one idea evolve into another? When did these changes happen, and what were the reasons for them? I am sure this has been discussed before, if I have just missed the boat and everyone knows the answer but me, just a few references would be great to put me on the right path to do my own research.
  3. Gen. 11 has Yahweh dividing the nations. And the Table of Nations in Gen 11 is the interpretive background for Deut 32 (70 nations // 70 sons of Canaanite god El). Gen. 14 has LORD Most High Both are written by the (J) source. This means that Yahweh = Elyon in Deut. 32:8-9. And here are the dates for authorship: (J) 10th century http://biologos.org/uploads/resources/enns_scholarly_essay3.pdf Deut 32 8th century Why the conflation?
  4. Question about Mark S. Smith's arguments for El, not Yahweh, as the God of the Exodus. He lists 4 reasons: 1. Two verses in Num 23-24 identify El as the one of freed Israelites from Egypt. 2. The name El appears 3x more frequently than Yahweh in the poems of Num 23-24 3. The older patriarchal narratives have a preponderance of El mentions. 4. Egyptian names like Moses and Phineas indicate there was a Levitical priesthood in Egypt. Does anyone one know what (4) has to do with El being the God of the Exodus? I don't get it.
  5. I have had problems with the wrathful God concept for along time, but especially since I read the Bible all the way through. Dr. Peterson, just recently, brought it up, again, on his blog, and I thought I would bring it here, so we could explore this further. My problem has been seeing a perfect and infinitely loving God, as being (also) wrathful, at times. It just seems like a contradiction, to me. Not that I cannot perceive God as "angry", perhaps, at some of the horrible sin that is perpetrated on this earth, but angry to the point of killing every man, woman, child and beast (as he supposedly ordered the Israelites to do to the Cannaanites?)...that kind of extreme wrath I have a difficult time attributing to God. I, most especially, had a hard time with it, in the context of mainstream Christianity, where all of these people, who were killed, were, then, consigned to an everlasting hell. with no further hope. I think (?) LDS doctrine, would, at least, provide for their possible redemption, in the hereafter? That's something I wanted to ask. This is the book that Dr. Peterson recommended: Is God a Moral Monster by Paul Copan I haven't read the book, but I have been listening to this (quite long) video, where Paul Copan debates this subject with atheist Norman Bacrac. http://youtu.be/idCch7fjO1k One of the things, in the video, that actually made "some" sense to me (from Copan) was that a loving God would cease to be loving, if he did not become angry over terrible atrocities. Maybe. Or not. I guess, I have always perceived God as being "sad" over sin, not really angry. Anger, in my view, is a weakness which God surely could not possess. Especially, a vengeful anger against his own children. (Especially, in light of the LDS concept of children, which is more like human offspring, than what mainstream Christians believe). Such a close relationship might give rise to some anger, but to the point of total destruction? Even we humans do not destroy our youth, when they become misguided. Why would a perfect God do that? Anyway, those are my thoughts and problems with parts of the O.T. I would like to hear all of your ideas and thoughts on God's Wrath.
  6. I loved Lost World of Genesis One so much I read Walton's book on ANE thought and OT. And now I'm using his IVP commentary (excellent if you're into comparative ANE). But his thesis is that "creating" something in the ANE means assigning something a function, not a material creation. But anybody who's had a biology class knows something's function depends on its structure. And its structure is material. So how can you give something a function without creating it materially?
  7. I have been attempting a study of our Father in heaven in the Old Testament and so far--he's not there. There are a few references to the Lord as a father, but these seem honorary or metaphorical based on his qualities (such as mercy) and as a general father to the lineage of Israel. It seems that the persons and culture that produced the documents of the Old Testament did not understand God to be a personal Father of their spirits. Does anyone have any insights or passages to share from the Old Testament; or from alternative sources contemporary to the Old Testament to give any glimpse on the fatherhood of God? I know that once we hit New Testament, the Restoration, etc, there are new conceptual situations. But I would like to confine my exploration and inquiry on the matter to "pre-Christ". Non-Judeo Christian texts and traditions are great, too, if you have any insights or sources; as long as they fit the time period. Thanks! Similarly, does anyone have any knowledge on what the "first" writing samples we have on earth, that are still with us? Or where I could find that informaiton?
  8. I wanted to make a book recommendation called Freedom Journeys: The Tale of Exodus and Wilderness Across Millenia by Rabbi Arthur O. Waskow and Rabbi Phyllis O. Berman. It talks about the Exodus in light of today's world for one thing. But honestly when I was reading it, I was getting a spiritual subtext from "my side" regarding our entry into mortal life as The Exodus. Either way, a lovely book.