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    There is never an audit of an individual member, and as far as I'm aware, there never has been. It's all based on the honor system as to whether someone paid a full tithe or not. The only audits are of the ward/branch finances by the stake auditor and the stake finances by a regional auditor to make sure all funds are accounted for and used properly.
  2. What does that have to do with anything? I think it's pretty clearly established that being called of God does not mean that God will prevent a person from doing bad things or succumbing to temptation. One need only look at Judas. He was quite literally called by God, and he still did bad things. Same with David, Saul and many others. If being called of God is a real thing, then it clearly doesn't mean God will not allow the person to do bad things after being called. Really, the only way this argument can make any sense is to take it to the end conclusion that no one is called of God and there is no God because bad things happen in the world. This whole line of argument is so tired I just can't bring myself to give it any more energy.
  3. The handbook does advise against this sort of thing. Meeting with children, youth or women without a parent or other adult nearby is not allowed. That has been the case for at least the last 10 years. Given that the abuse happened in 2016, I doubt this bishop really cared about following church policy. If someone is willing to break the commandments in such a grievous way, though, I doubt there's any policy or procedure that will prevent 100% of abuse.
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    Mike Stroud anyone?

    As someone who at one point was interested in this kind of stuff, I think the ultimate appeal of the global catastrophe, etc is that it's much easier to stockpile food, guns and ammo than to love your neighbor. Guns are fun and food is delicious, but my neighbor can be kind of a jerk sometimes. If everyone will be dead in a few months or years, why should I get to know them or love them or share the gospel? It's too much work.
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    President Nelson in Bolivia

    That's interesting. I learned Spanish on my mission and now live in Germany. Learning Spanish was a piece of cake. Learning German has been much harder, especially because of what you mention here. When we first moved here, whenever I would search for a German word, Spanish words would come to mind. Spanish and German don't really mix all that well either. The only reason I eventually managed it was out of necessity (not wanting to get fired). 😄
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    LDS Social Services

    If you're paying for yourself, then it works just like any other therapy or family counseling. The bishop would not even know about it. It's only if you explicitly give (voluntary) consent or if the church is paying for the services that the bishop is consulted. Having discussed matters as a bishop with LDS Family Services quite frequently, they do not share "intimate details", but rather whether the services are helping, what the bishop/church could do to support/enhance the therapy, and if the bishop has any information that they think would be helpful for the therapist. Another common topic was what exactly the church is paying for. Many people had a habit of telling LDS Family Services that I had authorized much more than I really had. The bishop/therapist should not be sharing confidential information without the consent of the individual.
  7. My mission was one of the most important experiences in my life, but it was also one of the most unpleasant and difficult ones. I served in Argentina, where baptisms are common. In my mission, the area presidency and mission president decided to make it a "rule" that we had to baptize someone every week and told us that if we didn't baptize every week, we were sinning and needed to repent. I had never experienced real, true depression until my mission. I was very conscientious, hard-working, and obedient. But it was never good enough. I was actually told multiple times on my mission that doing my best wasn't good enough. All that mattered was that I was meeting the (completely ridiculous) expectations. I was and am an extreme introvert. Tracting was torture for me, but I did it anyway, usually for 8+ hours a day. I baptized roughly once every other month. I could have baptized every week if I were willing to baptize people who would never show up to church again, but I couldn't bring myself to do that. Luckily, I gained a testimony several years before my mission, so it wasn't really a crisis of faith for me. It did take me about 18 months on my mission before the Lord told me powerfully that He was happy with my efforts and that was all that mattered. The last 6 months of my mission were significantly better. Having said all of that, I have always been glad I served a mission and stuck with it to the end. The lessons I learned about imperfect (though sincere) priesthood leaders, my best efforts being enough, and that only the Lord's approval matters have helped me significantly in my life. I had to relearn those lessons as a somewhat older single and as a young bishop, but my mission was key in allowing me to do so. My mission and subsequent callings have also gradually helped me to partially overcome my natural shyness and introversion. I still have to pace myself with talking to people I don't know or don't know well, but I am signifcantly better than when I was younger. I don't regret going for a second and would recommend it to anyone. But I also think it's important to go into it prepared and with eyes wide open as to how difficult it can be. It's also important, in my opinion, to not promote missions as fun or exciting trips to experience life and the world. You're there to serve, and serving the Lord, while rewarding, can also be extremely difficult, even to the point of the Lord asking you to do the very things that are hardest for you.
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    Should legal immigrationbe easier?

    Free tuition is right. I don't really follow politics much, so I'm not sure about the AfD. Politics just drive me nuts, so i tend to avoid them.
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    Should legal immigrationbe easier?

    As the husband of a German immigrant, I can tell you the process is ridiculous. We both have master's degrees and it was very difficult for us to figure out all the paperwork that was necessary for permanent residency and then later citizenship. The immigration officials that interviewed us were actually surprised we were able to do it correctly without hiring an attorney. Even without an attorney it cost us thousands of dollars and a lot of hours to get everything sorted out. Now that we're living in Germany temporarily, I have a basis for comparison. The process for me to get permanent residency in Germany was incredibly easy. I filled out one form, paid 100 euros or so and had one interview. Then after 2 years I had one more interview. I need one more interview and about 100 euros more and then I can stay as long as I want with no restrictions. In my opinion, the only restrictions on immigration should be a background check to keep criminals out and not allowing the use of welfare resources for the first X years to ensure someone doesn't just want to come and mooch off the system.
  10. It is actually a documented form of OCD called scrupulosity. It's something I have had issues with. Feeling like I'm going to hell over minor mistakes. I know logically it doesn't make any sense, but getting myself to actually believe and feel that is another story. I have made progress, but it's a real mental illness. Having said that, I disagree with those who claim the doctrines and standards of the church contribute to depression and scrupulosity. Our system of confession and judgment, as you say, has been key in allowing me to push away the obsessive thoughts knowing that I've done everything possible. I feel like I've come to have a much deeper understanding of and appreciation for the Savior and the Atonement precisely because the doctrines of the church have led me to seek peace through the Savior. I really feel like the gospel is what keeps my scrupulosity and depression in check rather than causing them. Edited to add: Medication helps quite a bit, too.
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    Cardston Temple Vision

    Comparing Trump to Washington? You left out the biggest difference. Washington was a man of integrity and strong moral character, who was governed by principle. Trump is an amoral philanderer who will say and do anything to get what he wants.
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    Hastening the Work

    I find the major renovations of a very large number of temples to be interesting in this respect. I find it hard to believe that so many temples just happened to fall apart in the last 5 years, especially given the standard to which temples are built in the first place. And the renovations are not just a coat of paint. In many cases, they seem to be almost a complete rebuild.
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    Joseph Smith and Multiple Mortal Probations

    How do sealings fit into the whole idea of MMP? Wouldn't MMP effectively make the doctrine of eternal families meaningless, since you would have a different family each time around?
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    New Girls Camp Guidebook

    The way I read her post, she was saying that the counsel to STOP manipulating emotion was very much needed.
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    Disciplinary, how many times?

    As many as it takes*. *With the caveat that, from what I've seen, each additional time someone strays or leaves completely, it gets harder to return.