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  1. Alan

    LDS Church cancels Pioneer Day Devotional

    There are too many of these "devotionals". Youth devotionals, YSA devotionals, Christmas devotionals.... the list goes on.
  2. Alan

    2 hour block

    My experience of the Sabbath in Utah is that it is very lax indeed. All the Walmart's are busy, restaurants are open, and I've even heard of church meetings being cut short to accommodate the Super Bowl. Generally, Sabbath keeping here is much better in my experience.
  3. This is absolutely appalling. What is happening to my church?
  4. Alan

    The Lincoln Hypothesis

    I don't know really, it's just always fascinated him. He knows more about the US civil war than he does about the English civil war, the war of the roses, the Norman conquest etc, combined. Maybe he's a bit of a weirdo... ☺️
  5. Alan

    Varying Valiantness of Plants and Animals?

    All a "witness tree" in the sacred grove would have "seen" is a boy on his knees. It is called the First Vision for a reason. It was a vision. Joseph saw a vision, not a physical visitation.
  6. Alan

    Missionary work and Gays

    Here in the UK the mission president has to interview any prospective foreign Muslim convert prior to baptism to enquire whether they intent to return to their country and, if so, if their life will be in danger.
  7. As I understand it, the issue came up more than once. The First Pres. and the Twelve operate a strict policy of unanimity when considering such things. I understand that a unanimous decision was not possible prior to 1978.
  8. There is a video on youtube somewhere by an LDS chap who worked out how this could have been done. He calculated the rate at which the earth would have to slow and speed up again within the time period. His conclusion? It was possible. Please don't shout "CFR" at me. Look it up on yotube yourselves if you're interested.
  9. Jeanne, I agree. It seems everything is presented as revelation these days, when it clearly isn't.
  10. Why do you insist on putting words in my mouth? When did I say they weren't sure themselves? I'm quite sure they believe as most of the rest of the church does. Why wouldn't they? They have grown up in the same church and religious culture as everyone else. They have probably never questioned the perceived truth. Or are you claiming some kind of Papal style infallibility in matters of religious faith amongst the leadership? If so, maybe you could tell me who is right about Adam/God or race & priesthood, the current church leadership or a previous one? In this regard imagine it's the 1860's and Brigham and the rest of the church leadership had an essay written and published to address concerns amongst the membership regarding the identity of God. See the problem?
  11. Clearly you're not interested in finding the truth in this matter because you've already decided there isn't any. Therefore your question appears insincere at best. Just mischief making methinks.
  12. Let's say they didn't and they don't claim they have revelatory reason to believe the essays are accurate; where does that leave you?
  13. No, not particularly. I would much prefer revelation on the the subject.
  14. That's right. He was pointing out there were more to come on some of the issues we raised in the question and answer session. But the point is he was unable to answer some questions because he didn't know, but assured us the church leadership knew they didn't know and were addressing it through the essays..... if that makes sense.