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  1. BYU Cougars team dances in the locker room after OT win over USC
  2. I don't see any mention of it in the Joseph Smith papers or anywhere else.
  3. One of her main issues though is that men, by virtue of holding the priesthood, almost always are made leaders over women and the only way that can change significantly is if women are ordained to the priesthood. Something that just isn't going to happen in the near future if not never.
  4. Back in 2015 some of the women leaders were assigned to permanently serve on the top Church leadership councils: Several women general officers of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have been appointed by the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles to priesthood leadership councils within the Church. Sister Bonnie L. Oscarson talked about her new assignment on the Missionary Executive Council in a Facebook post. I still vividly remember President Thomas S. Monson announcing the lowered missionary age for young women. Today I... Posted by Bonnie L. Oscarson on Tuesday, August 18, 2015 Elder Dallin H. Oaks of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles added his support to the new assignments for the female leaders on his Facebook page. I was very pleased to read Sister Bonnie Oscarson’s Facebook post about the new assignments of our women officers to the... Posted by Dallin H Oaks on Tuesday, August 18, 2015 Sister Linda K. Burton, general president of the Relief Society; Sister Bonnie L. Oscarson, Young Women general president; and Sister Rosemary M. Wixom, general president of the Primary, have been appointed to councils that establish policy for the Church. It is with a thankful heart that I have been appointed to serve on the Priesthood and Family Executive Council. Good men... Posted by Linda K. Burton on Tuesday, August 18, 2015 Sister Burton will serve on the Priesthood and Family Executive Council, Sister Oscarson will work with the Missionary Executive Council and Sister Wixom will participate in the Temple and Family History Executive Council. The name of the Priesthood Executive Council has been changed to the Priesthood and Family Executive Council. Primary children sing “I Love To See The Temple.” Some children even research family names and index. They love to... Posted by Rosemary M. Wixom on Tuesday, August 18, 2015 “We are confident that the wisdom and judgment of these general auxiliary presidents will provide a valuable dimension to the important work accomplished by these councils,” said a letter to general authorities and general auxiliary presidencies from Church President Thomas S. Monson; President Henry B. Eyring, first counselor in the First Presidency; and President Dieter F. Uchtdorf, second counselor in the First Presidency. The new assignments are effective immediately.
  5. "In some cases, priesthood and auxiliary leaders are asked to make recommendations to their stake presidency or bishopric. They should approach this responsibility prayerfully, knowing that they can receive guidance from the Lord about whom to recommend. However, they should remember that final responsibility to receive inspiration on whom to call rests with the stake presidency or the bishopric." (Handbook 1 19.1.2)
  6. Like I said earlier the Handbook says the RS president can be invited to attend the Bishopric meetings. They just need to start doing it.
  7. That's too bad. She could have been invited. I think the most import ward business that she would be concerned with happens in the Welfare meeting.
  8. Maybe I missed something but they do get the RS president's input when they have the Bishop's council meetings or welfare meetings or ward council meetings: The handbook states: "The bishopric usually meets at least weekly. The ward clerk and ward executive secretary attend; the clerk keeps a record of assignments and decisions. The bishop may invite others to attend as needed. For example, a sensitive matter could be addressed in an expanded bishopric meeting that includes the elders quorum president, Relief Society president, or both. The RS president can attend all these meetings and add the woman's voice.
  9. I suppose, but the material is usually very thick, not transparent, and very modest.
  10. I got this from Wiki: "Women's suffrage in Utah was first granted in 1870, in the pre-federal period, decades before statehood. Among all U.S. states, only Wyoming granted suffrage to women earlier than Utah. Because Utah held two elections before Wyoming, Utah women were the first women to cast ballots in the United States after the start of the suffrage movement. " So I guess Wyoming was the first to give women the right to vote, but Utah women were the first to actually vote.
  11. OK that settles it. No more youth dances. 😉
  12. Actually I think part of her reason for writing this is simply a matter of click bait. She posts the same article in the SL Tribune.
  13. No, the church is stuck in God's way of thinking, where it should be. Utah women were the first women to vote in a national election, and later, when Utah became a state, it was the second state to extend the right to vote to women, following behind Wyoming.
  14. I understand and agree with the spirit of what you are saying but I think both roles are of equal worth in the eyes of God, if they accept and perform their roles as they should. What I don't agree with is that the woman's role is not as important as the man's or that her opinions are of less worth or should hold less authority than the man's. In the church the Priesthood authority has the final say, but that final say is quite often what the woman said first.
  15. When it comes down to it, even though the father is supposed to preside in the family it is the mother and wife who usually is the one who has the greatest influence on how the family operates and how the children are nurtured.
  16. Here is Jana Riess' evidence: "This is unacceptable, but not surprising, for three sad reasons. The first is due to ingrained structural sexism. In the Church, men exist in entirely homosocial corridors of power. They rarely attend meetings with women or girls, and never with women as equal partners. They do not have to listen to women at church as anything but merely advisory voices if they listen to women at all, though many do choose to listen and go out of their way to correct the imbalance. I’m sorry to be so blunt about it, but there is no way around the reality: Women do not lead men in this church. Ever. Women do not even lead teenage boys in this church. Starting from at least the age of 12, if not earlier, men are conditioned at church to see women as ancillary to decision making. It’s not surprising that, given this reality, male Church leaders are more likely to believe male perpetrators then they are female victims. It’s a trust issue. It is human nature that when we are presented with cold, hard facts about a person we have counseled with, served with, and sat with for many hours in meetings, our knee-jerk reaction is to discredit anything bad about them. We want to continue believing that this person is exactly what we thought they were: the affable and loving bishop, the kind-hearted and funny member of stake high council. When the accused are people we know personally, seeing their names in connection with degrading stories of sexual abuse and predatory misconduct does not compute. This is why the system is entirely stacked against women. It’s not just that women are not permitted to make decisions that affect anyone but other women and perhaps children in the LDS Church (and even then, such decisions must always be approved by male priesthood leaders). It’s also that women simply do not have the access to decision-makers that men do. When Stephen Murdock comes before a disciplinary council on charges of sexual misconduct, which I fully expect will happen, it will be the exact stake high council he served on, with the same men deciding his fate. Men who know him well. The second sad reality is related. All Latter-day Saints, both men and women, are counseled to obey their leaders. To do so is considered a blessing. We are instructed that the Lord himself called our bishops, stake presidents, and general authorities to the positions they hold, and it is not our place to question them. Such a system is at great risk for abuse. It’s interesting to me that both Steven Murdock and Paul Bur**** were arrested when charges were brought by women and girls who were not, to my knowledge at least, members of the Church. Is this because the men never perpetrated acts of abuse on fellow members, or because Latter-day Saint women and girls had been so conditioned by a culture of obeying male authority and protecting the institution of the Church that they dared not speak the truth? Finally, our religion has a long and unfortunate history of regarding women as objects. Polygamy is no longer practiced, but it has also never been refuted. Its legacy lives on in temple sealing practices that require divorced or bereaved women to have their first marriage “canceled” before they can remarry in the temple; men are under no such obligation." What this means in practice is that a man may look forward to an eternity in which all of the women who married him monogamously in life become polygamists in the afterlife. Their consent to this, it seems, is unimportant—which suggests that Mormon men expect that even in the eternities, their decisions about women will still be more important than women’s decisions about themselves. _________________________________________ In my experience Bishops very much listen to and use the advice of the female leaders of the church. They also very much listen to the voice of their own wife. Some of it are valid observations but I think she is over exaggerating things a bit too much.
  17. Wow This guy was not going down till he scored!
  18. "Ordinances and Blessings by and for People with Disabilities" I was in the Freso, CA temple and saw some members doing baptisms and confirmations for the dead all in sign language.
  19. Some very unstable disgruntled former members know who they are and might care enough to hurt them. For regular members. I look at the whole thing as the same as worrying about whether lightening is going to strike me. Sure it happens, but the odds are very much against it. I will take some precautions but in the end I don't have much control over something that is so rare to happen. Still, I don't mind that there are police officers in my ward who do carry in church.
  20. So, what is the value of a "personal witness" borne by a member of the First Presidency in General Conference? What level of confidence should we have in something that is so witnessed, compared to, say, someone just standing up and making up a bunch of stuff based on what he was told while he was growing up? I think he can testify that those "events" happened, but he may or may not have been right on the exact location of where they happened.
  21. Mission President Passes Away in the Philippines Church spokesman Daniel Woodruff shared with journalists Wednesday this statement about the death of one of the faith’s 399 mission presidents: It is with deep sadness that we announce the passing of Bradley Wayne Kirk, president of the Philippines Naga Mission. Early Monday morning, President Kirk had a stroke at home and was taken to the hospital. He passed away Wednesday morning at the age of 61. He and his wife, Shirley, are from Clovis, California and had been serving since July 2019. They have three children. We call upon people of faith to join us in praying for the comfort and well-being of the Kirk family at this difficult time. We also pray for the missionaries who will miss this wonderful and capable leader. The Kirk family released this message: We are deeply saddened by the passing of our father, husband, grandfather, brother, and uncle. We find comfort that he passed while doing what he loved — serving the Lord in a place dear to his heart amongst a people he loved, with his lifelong sweetheart by his side. Our family has been overwhelmed with the public and private outpouring of the positive impact he has left on so many people. Although his time in Naga was short, he felt a deep love and appreciation for the missionaries. His love for family, music, the outdoors, and our Savior Jesus Christ will never be forgotten. We await the day of our joyful reunion." ------------------------------- I wonder who takes over for the mission when this happens? My brother-in-law and sister were set to go to England but he had a heart attack a few weeks before which was resolved but they would not let him go on the mission
  22. " And it came to pass that when we had gathered in all our people in one to the land of Cumorah, behold I, Mormon, began to be old; and knowing it to be the last struggle of my people, and having been commanded of the Lord that I should not suffer the records which had been handed down by our fathers, which were sacred, to fall into the hands of the Lamanites, (for the Lamanites would destroy them) therefore I made this record out of the plates of Nephi, and hid up in the hill Cumorah all the records which had been entrusted to me by the hand of the Lord, save it were these few plates which I gave unto my son Moroni." (Mormon 6:6) Here Mormon specifically states that he hid up all the records in the hill Cumorah EXCEPT "these few plates" he gave to his son Moroni, which I assume (perhaps wrongly) were the gold plates that the Book of Mormon was translated from. References to this scripture specify these plates as those that Joseph Smith recovered from the angel Moroni(D&C 17:1). The scriptures never tell us specifically where Moroni hid the plates that his father gave him. Most people assume it was in the same hill. Moroni wandered around with those "few plates" for about 35 years before he finished his writings and then hid them in the earth(Ether 4:3, Mormon 8:14). Moroni never specifies the name Cumorah as where he hid them. In those 35 years he could have wandered up from Central America(or somewhere else) to the area where New York is now. There is no doubt that all the records Mormon used to compile his abridged set of plates are hidden in a hill called Cumorah, close to where most of the history took place. But did Moroni hide the plates his father gave him in the same hill 35 years later? Or did he hide them in a different hill thousands of miles away that we now also perhaps wrongly call Cumorah?
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